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Originally posted by tafnut
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You're right, and so am I. He used large red all-Canadian capitals before your post.Take good care of yourself. -
i've got a solution for all of this.Originally posted by SQUACKEE
grab a smoke and a beer, go to the beach with your lovely and play a few tunes..c'est la vie.Comment
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Ah yes, the 'Ostrich Solution'. Works well in the short-term; rarely in the long-term. :twisted:Originally posted by figoComment
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Being worried all the time makes me unhappy in the short and long term. :?Originally posted by tafnutphsstt!Comment
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I do not worry. I pay attention and act accordingly if and when I can. My level of control on this particular issue is what you would call limited. I recognize that and do not stress about it. This goes for just about any large issue facing us where my level of control is equally limited.Originally posted by SQUACKEE
In a perfect world everyone would agree with me on what I consider to be the important issues, but this is not the case. I understand that many folks are often wrong. :P C'est la vie . . .Comment
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So we Do agree! Neither of us is worried!Originally posted by bad hammy
phsstt!Comment
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Reminds me of the Serenity Prayer:Originally posted by bad hammy
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change
The courage to change the things I can
And the wisdom to know the difference.Take good care of yourself.Comment
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My wife has that on our living room wall as a constant reminder. What remaining sanity I DO have here in my dotage, is directly attributable to remembering the value of that 'prayer'. It's now on my classroom wall, and you'd be amazed at how many times I have to point to it and remind students of its value.Originally posted by MenniscoComment
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You do vote, don't you? That's not a lot of control, I know, but I think candidates' positions on environmental issues are increasingly going to be weighed by voters.Originally posted by bad hammyComment
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i was thinking about giving the global warming thing a rest, but of course i read the national post (canada), a very good news paper might i add, several articles on global warming.
our prime minister, stephen harper, a sinister looking anti-political type, prone to blunt statements called the kyoto accord a "fantasy". but said he'd do something about global warming.
the opposition criticized harper over his non-efforts, while the opposition did dick about global warming while in power......
all spin and posture from those boys.... actually governments seem to be just playing trying to look good while they figure out what the hell.
on the front page we had central canada suffering under the worst cold snap in recorded history.
chicago was -35 C? (chill) which is about -30F or something like that
winnipeg hit -40 C=F, not including chill....
Across the Northern Plains and the Eastern United States, the cold snap is blamed for at least seven deaths. Cook, Minn., had the coldest temperature today, according to the National Weather Service: 31 degrees below zero.
"Over the last couple of weeks, the El Nino has weakened a little bit," says Dennis Feltgen of the National Weather Service. "So as a result, polar air is making its way into the eastern half of the country, and we're feeling the type of weather that would be normally expected for winter."
note: our joker weather guys got it all figured out, el nino backed off a bit...
someone tell those guys to shut the fup whenst time they should not shut the fup..Comment
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Global warming causes heat wave
Beijing reports record high temperatures
After temperature records were broken on "Lichun" (the beginning of spring, the first of China's 24 traditional agricultural "terms" in the lunar calendar, which this year fell on February 4), Beijing reported another record high temperature of 16 degrees Celsius on the afternoon of February 5, the highest recorded temperature on that date in the last 167 years (systematic temperature records have been kept since 1840). Meteorological data shows that the average temperature in Beijing last December and this January were significantly higher than in previous years and that trend will continue this month. Meteorological experts say that the recent abnormally high temperatures have seldom been seen during this period at any time in history. Temperatures also remain high in Harbin city. The snow in the streets is melting. In Shanghai, the temperature was above 20 degrees Celsius for a few days in early
record high = global warming......
record lows = elnino backed off a bit.
Global warming report nails shut scientific debate
Wednesday, February 07, 2007
Looking out West Michigan windows these days, it's hard to imagine global warming as anything other than science fiction. Skeptics take a lot of false comfort from anecdotal evidence, yet the ice, cold and snow of this and the past week is just a blip in the cumulative weather data of the centuries.
the global warming / mass media are rapidly evolving into a nazi style group,
bullies with an agenda to wipe out counter argument on the topic. stalin / hitler would be impressed with their efforts. how many researchers looking at global cooling are going to get grant money???
Oregon Governor Set to Fire State Climatologist Over Global Warming
Can your job really be at risk if you don’t buy into the junk science of anthropogenic global warming? Well, that certainly seems to be the case in Oregon.
As reported by the Beaver State’s KGW.com (h/t Drudge):
In the face of evidence agreed upon by hundreds of climate scientists, George Taylor holds firm. He does not believe human activities are the main cause of global climate change.
Like a George Romero movie, the article eerily continued:
Taylor has held the title of "state climatologist" since 1991 when the legislature created a state climate office at OSU The university created the job title, not the state.
His opinions conflict not only with many other scientists, but with the state of Oregon's policies.
So the governor wants to take that title from Taylor and make it a position that he would appoint.
Imagine that. But it gets worse:
In an exclusive interview with KGW-TV, Governor Ted Kulongoski confirmed he wants to take that title from Taylor. The governor said Taylor's contradictions interfere with the state's stated goals to reduce greenhouse gases, the accepted cause of global warming in the eyes of a vast majority of scientists.
Suddenly, “An Inconvenient Truth” is becoming seriously inconvenient to those who don’t believe it. Isn’t the Party on the left marketed as the big tent of tolerance?
What’s wrong with this picture?
[Global warming to cost us
Millions will be spent on higher prices, fixes, study says
By DAN RICHMAN
P-I REPORTER
Global warming is known to be destructive, but a study released Wednesday shows it also will be expensive, costing Washington state and its residents millions of dollars in higher prices and remedial measures.
mass media knows whats what...dooms day for washington... but if it doesn't happen, i suppose elnino is backing off a bit again...
every important topic needs to be researched pro and con.
you want criticism of your argument to make it robust, sound and of quality.
the ear mark of bad science is poli-science and that's what you have here.
the focus of the debate is largely rhetorical and personality driven with facts left on the sideline and the spin front and center.
a mature approach would be to study the possible positive and negative effects of potential global warming/cooling.
if computer models are to be used for major decision making, those models should be studied for accuracy, first over the short term and then look at long term efficacy.Comment
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figo,
You seem a tad fixated over this whole thing . . .Comment
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these guys know a nazi when they see one.
by the way, this following article is not by me, i'm slightly surprised to see pretty much identical conclusions by this fine fellow.....
one might think that a group of environmental professionals would be biased toward global warming predictions, but think again..
Global Warming...Says Who?
- For the Journal Global Warming...Says Who?
The National Registry of Environmental Professionals (NREP), released a survey of its professional society members on November 16, 2006 that completely discredits Al Gore’s bogus claim that “the debate is over.” More than 12,000 environmental scientists participated in the survey that revealed the following conclusions:
34 percent do not even believe that global warming is a serious problem.
41 percent do not believe that the global warming trend can be attributed to human activity.
71 percent do not believe that recent hurricane activity is to human activity.
33 percent disagree that the U.S. government is not doing enough to address global warming
47 percent disagree that international agreements such as the Kyoto Protocol provide a solid framework for combating global climate change.
These results demonstrate that many scientists believe climate variance is not a terribly pressing issue and that recent warming trends are no more alarming than many other naturally occurring warming trends in our recent past. This, of course, contradicts claims by environmental propagandists that the debate is over and that virtually all scientists agree humans are causing substantial and ominous global warming.
This poll shows the real environmental experts are very much divided on the issue, and for good reason.
For one, global temperatures are currently rising at only 0.12 to 0.17 (depending on whether one believes satellite measurements or ground station measurements) degrees Celsius per decade. This translates to only 1.2 to 1.7 degrees warming over the entire next century, even if no intervening cooling periods occur_which, historically, they always have.
Moreover, we are currently in a recurring cycle of approximately 100,000 years of advancing glaciers followed by 10,000 years of interglacial warming. Our current interglacial is roughly 10,000 years old, and by historic standards we are overdue for another ice age. In the preceding four interglacials, temperatures reached an average of 3 degrees Celsius warmer than they are today. In other words, we would need another two centuries of current warming trends merely to reach typical interglacial temperatures. It goes without saying that those past warming periods were not caused by man or his use of fossil fuels.
“Worst-case” temperature projections are constantly being lowered as we learn more about the science of climate variance. In its upcoming Fourth Assessment, for example, the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is reducing its worst-case temperature projections by more than 20 percent from what it projected just five years ago.
Invoking “consensus” to avoid debating the very real complexities of climate variance is at best a mistake, and at worst a purposeful distortion of the truth. Pretending that all resistance to catastrophic predictions is based on a confusion of science does not make the facts keeping the debate alive go away. Al Gore’s saying it, does not make it so.
Gore’s attempt to end debate is not unlike the education “experts” attempts to end debate over another theory, the theory of evolution. This kind of approach to research is eerily similar to Nazi, Communist and other dictatorial regimes. Is Mr. Gore serious? Deluded? Or out of his mind? Since when is “the debate over” on any subject.
And, as the NREP poll confirms, the debate over global warming is most certainly not “over.”Comment
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a tad? how about very tad.Originally posted by bad hammyComment
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I bet on the "Global Warming News" Message Boards, you kill!!!Originally posted by figoComment
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