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    ..will give the Pats some real speed at wide receiver...finally. We have to go back to Stanley Morgan (also out of Tennessee) to find another blurr for the Pats.

    That got me thinking...

    Bob Boyd...Loyola/Rams....the roots to the tree. An NCAA 100 champ in the mid 50's and the first really speedy NFL receiver.

    Prior to Hayes there was Bobby Mitchell a 13.7/9.6 guy out of Illinois, who started out as as a running back in Cleveland. Yep he was there with Jim Brown. So why did they trade him to Washington..hahaha!!!! There he became a great receiver.

    Bob Hayes...Florida A&M/Cowboys..9.1/10.06 Olympic champion
    Homer Jones...Texas Southern/Giants...9.3(once beat Hayes in a 200)
    Willie Gault...Tennessee/Bears..10.11
    Alvis Whitted...NCSt/Raiders...10.07
    Sam Graddy...Tennessee/Broncos...10.09 Olympic medalist
    James Jett...WV/Raiders..10.16 Olympian
    Frank Budd...Vill/Eagles..9.2 Olympian
    Ray Norton...SJS/Niners...9.3 Olympian
    Gerald Tinker...Kent St/Falcons...9.3 Olympian
    Larry Burton...Purdue/Saints...9.3 Olympian 200
    James Lofton...Stanford/Packers...10.3?
    Wesley Walker...Cal/Jets..9.5
    Harold Jackson..Jackson St/Eagles..9.4
    Ken Burroughs...Texas Southern/Oilers..9.4
    Renaldo Nehemiah...Maryland/Niners...10.1?
    Clyde Glosson...Texas Western/Bills...9.3?
    Cecil Turner...CPSLO/Bears...9.3
    Curtis Conway...USC/Bears...10.26?
    Johnny Jones...Texas/Jets..9.3 Olympian
    Earl McCulloch...USC/Lions...9.4
    Phil Epps...TCU/Packers..10.16
    Michael Haynes...Northern Arizona/Falcons...10.2?
    John Roderick...SMU/Dolphins...9.3
    Jimmy Hines...Texas Southern/Dolphins...9.1 Olympic champion
    Tommie Smith...SJS/Bengals...9.3 Olympic 200 champion
    Isacc Curtis...SDS/Cal/Bengals...9.3
    Alexander Wright...Auburn/Cowboys..?
    JD Hill...ASU/Bills...9.3
    Cliff Branch...Col/Raiders...9.2
    Mel Gray...Mo/Cards...9.2
    Anthony Miller...Tenn/Chargers...9.3
    Willie McGee...Alcorn/Chargers...9.1

    Would ya believe Tim Dwight was only a 10.33, guy and I'm thinking it was windy.

    No doubt...

    Randy Moss
    Rocket Ismail (did run some 60's)
    Joey Galloway
    Lance Alworth
    John Jefferson
    Donte Stallworth

    ...all had/have great speed. Just nothing as far as a collegiate trackster.

    I've seen Michael Bates listed as a receiver and a running back...hmmm?

    Warren Wells was the streak that Lamonica was throwing to back in his "Mad Bomber" days. Wells was out of Texas Southeren and was said to have 9.4 speed. I 've never seen that in print ....so..???

    Yes I know..Hines,Smith, Budd, Nehemiah and Norton had very forgettable NFL careers. Then there was Stone Johnson.

  • #2
    add ted ginn to that list....

    he's a pure sprinter too...

    as to stallworth, being in philly, he's NOT really a pure sprinter, more football player first, who has the ability to get deep...

    does have a history of hamstring problems with saints and eagles though...

    pats seem to have picked up a dozen wide receivers though

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    • #3
      add ted ginn to that list....

      What would you guess he'd run the 100m in if he concentrated on track? Does 10.25 sound about right? Deion Sanders and Herschel Walker were around that.

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      • #4
        ginn is more hurdler than 100 meter guy...

        110m HURDLES (13.22y)
        13.51 ......................... *Jason Richardson (Cedar Hill, Tx)
        13.52 ............................. Kerron Clement' (La Porte, Tx)
        13.62 .................. *Theodore Ginn (Glenville, Cleveland, Oh)

        http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/lists/ ... out_m.html

        i'll take any bet ginn would beat walker and sanders at 100 meters....

        but ginn doing the 100 is like having skeets do the 100, it ain;t his event...

        doing hurdles might be a better overall fit for projecting football acumen than pure speed, and technigue, balance of hurdling i think prepares you more for the cutting involved in football

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        • #5
          Originally posted by az2004
          ginn is more hurdler than 100 meter guy...

          110m HURDLES (13.22y)
          13.51 ......................... *Jason Richardson (Cedar Hill, Tx)
          13.52 ............................. Kerron Clement' (La Porte, Tx)
          13.62 .................. *Theodore Ginn (Glenville, Cleveland, Oh)

          http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/lists/ ... out_m.html

          i'll take any bet ginn would beat walker and sanders at 100 meters....

          but ginn doing the 100 is like having skeets do the 100, it ain;t his event...

          doing hurdles might be a better overall fit for projecting football acumen than pure speed, and technigue, balance of hurdling i think prepares you more for the cutting involved in football
          Hurdlers in the NFL....hmmmm?

          Renaldo Nehemiah....Maryland/waste of his time.
          Willie Gault....Tennessee/decent career
          Earl McCullouch....USC/decent career
          Jerry Tarr...Oregon/big mistake!
          Richmond Flowers...Tennessee/what happened?
          James Owens...UCLA/ok...sorta.
          Rod Woodson..Purdue/Hall Of Fame career.
          Bobby Mitchell....Ill/Hall Of Fame!
          Abe Woodson....Ill/great career.
          Paul Lowe...Oregon St/great career
          Reyna Thompson...Baylor/ok career
          Quadry Ismail...Syracuse/good career.
          Art Monk...Syracuse/Hall Of Fame career?
          Gene Washington...Mich St/good career
          Roger Craig...Nebraska/great career
          Tyrone Wheatley...Mich/good career
          Fair Hooker (luv that name)...Arizona St/ok career
          Anthony Hancock...Tennessee/not much.

          Do you think Ginn is a 4.25 guy?

          In the trivia department...

          Name three 400hurdlers in the NFL.

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          • #6
            Bennie Brazell with the Bengals springs to mind as the best 400 hurdler currently in the NFL. Glenn Davis would be the most distinguished former NFL hurdler, although I don't think he amounted to much during his time with Detroit. For a third, how about the Bills punter Brian Moorman?

            Michael Timpson was a 20.23 guy and was the leading Patriots wide receiver in receptions and receiving yards in 1993 and 1994, behind the tight end Ben Coates.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by dakota
              Bennie Brazell with the Bengals springs to mind as the best 400 hurdler currently in the NFL. Glenn Davis would be the most distinguished former NFL hurdler, although I don't think he amounted to much during his time with Detroit. For a third, how about the Bills punter Brian Moorman?

              Michael Timpson was a 20.23 guy and was the leading Patriots wide receiver in receptions and receiving yards in 1993 and 1994, behind the tight end Ben Coates.
              I was thinking of Brazell of course and...

              Nolan Cromwell...Kansas/Rams
              Paul Robinson...Arizona/Bengals (their first 1000yd rusher)

              Timpson is interesting. He could also hurdle and long jump. Out of Penn St.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Texas

                Do you think Ginn is a 4.25 guy?
                It's my understanding that no one has ever broken 4.3 at the NFL combine during the era of electronic timing. This year's fastest time was 4.30, run by Yamon Figurs of Kansas State. Weighing in at 174 pounds, he looked more like a track guy than football player. All of the legendary times that were supposed to have been run by the likes of Deion Sanders and Bo Jackson were in hand time era.

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                • #9
                  Don't know if any of these guys made it to an NFL camp but Larry Highbaugh, Andy Hopkins and 1960 Olympic 400m qualifier, Ted Woods had pretty good good careers in the Canadian Football League.

                  Laveranues Coles also had a blazing rookie NFL 40 around the same time as Donte Stallworth.

                  cman

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                  • #10
                    was cromwell also a 10 eventer....??

                    as to ginn, he's gotta run before the draft...if his time is made known. we 'll have it, although i'd expect some hijinx, like a rolling start for instance...

                    give me a hurdler over a 100 meter guy, just for principle...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by cullman
                      Don't know if any of these guys made it to an NFL camp but Larry Highbaugh, Andy Hopkins and 1960 Olympic 400m qualifier, Ted Woods had pretty good good careers in the Canadian Football League.

                      Laveranues Coles also had a blazing rookie NFL 40 around the same time as Donte Stallworth.

                      cman
                      Highbaugh a 9.3 guy out of Indiana. Andy Hopkins has been a trivia question of mine for a long time. At Stephen F. Austin he was a running back with 9.2 speed. That is the fastest "yards" ever ran by a running back who played in the NFL. Hayes was a rb at Florida A&M but not in the NFL. Woods a 45.8 guy out of Colorado.

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