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  • #76
    i suspect the reason ryan got fired was by treating solo lioke a 13 year old girl...

    he banned her from associating with the rest of the players, she had to eat alone, do everything alone...

    what 13 year okld nonsense was this...

    ryan had last used scurry in JUNE, freaking JUNE of 2007, then after MONTHS of no real matches decided to use her...

    what solo said when INTERVIEWED was the freaking TRUTH...

    and USSF knew it too...

    forever the uswnt was the core 1991 group, but they've NOT been able to find players to replace them....

    sadly, lilly out wide at her age was the wrong use of her ability....

    the team lacked anyone to run the oofense from central midfield, although ally wagner was the best option but had a lingering injury...and NO ONE existed to replace her...

    from wusa, the female league ONLY SHANNON BOXX was a find of that league...

    the women are FAR too dependent on the youth system, get targetted early and you are there almost for life...

    the rest of the world is getting better each year, usa needs to establish a bettwer system than the current one...

    and axing ryan was a good step...

    i'd hire brandi chastain personally, as she's the most acute soccer mind of the core 1991 group, and she would play a far more skilled game...

    suspect solo is on the olympic team next year, and will be very motivated...

    brasil and germany and north korea are the road blocks..

    heather mitts returning from ACL, can be an atatcking right back, something this etam sorely lacked.

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    • #77
      well said, az (but poorly typed! ). I agree.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by tafnut
        well said, az (but poorly typed! ). I agree.
        I do, too. Especially playing Lilly as a striker rather than in midfield.
        Let me state though that I am not defending Ryan. I just felt that the booth crucified him before they had a reason to and IMHO, for the wrong reasons.
        "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
        by Thomas Henry Huxley

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        • #79
          typing, i'm lucky i hot the right key half the time...

          ussf has begun to do the right things...

          the u-17 coach on the male side, just hired, is wilfredo cabrera...

          http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... 70&cc=5901

          colombian who's played at the highest of levels, giving u-17 access to a quality training is positive...

          rongen is a decent coach too, what dutchman doesn't know the game...

          and ussf has had the usmnt go to play on the road, this year in august in sweden, lost 1-0, in october in switzerland, won 1-0, and on november 17 will play in south africa...

          usa men used to play WAY TO MUCH i the comfy usa, and the road performance in real matches was mediocre at best...

          as to the women.....it used to be anson dorrance and the unc mafia running everything for 10 years...that model of athletic play became the way uswnt played, athletic, run you do death, lesser emphasis on a one/two touch game...

          now, ussf is looking for a new coach, perhaps some one outside of that style of play.....PIA SUNDHAGE would be one, but i think they'll go american...as i mentioned chastain would be my choice...her husband, coaches santa clara, and has turred down the job in the past...

          usa women need a league to play in regularly, ONE where current form can be identified, AND NEW players enter the national team picture...

          competition breeds success, and give enough women a chance, they'll push the established players out, or make them better...

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          • #80
            http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/st ... us&cc=5901


            good news from my perspective..

            pia sundhage is a leading candidate for the uswnt job...

            please not dicicco...

            smith or ellis would be good choices too...

            they (all 3) would dramatically change the style of play of american women

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            • #81
              Originally posted by az2004
              please not dicicco.
              agree - need fresh blood.

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              • #82
                ellis has done u-20 and u-17 managing before, but she prefers a more skilled based approach to the game...

                sundhage was an assistant coach in wusa before she was the head coach for boston in 2003....

                mark krikorian, the current florida state head coach, hired her day one...

                sundhage nurtured the young kelly smith and heather mitts...

                imagine a team where the outside backs actually go forward, overlap with otuside mids, switch the ball from side to side and vary the attack..

                what a novel way to play the game...

                better than pound the ball to wambach, and when the other team can defend that, have no other options

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by az2004
                  imagine a team where the outside backs actually go forward, overlap with otuside mids, switch the ball from side to side and vary the attack..what a novel way to play the game...better than pound the ball to wambach, and when the other team can defend that, have no other options
                  I guess you and I wave been watched different teams play. The USA has played the Beautiful Game as well as anyone in the last 20 years, including the post-Mia years. Abby W is such a powerful player, it certainly makes sense to use her as an air target as much as they do. It works! But that is not all they have. They DO need to adapt their game to what the Germans and Brazilians bring to the table, but it's not time to panic just because we lost ONE game. We didn't have a good game and the Brazilians did. Time to prepare for next year.

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                  • #84
                    usa women have NOT played the beautiful game...

                    they NO way played a skilled game like brasil...

                    it was all about the BEST athletes, who could run faster than anyone else...

                    they beat you with speed and size..

                    1991-1999 they just set up in the offensive half, and the other team ONLY ran counter attack type stuff...

                    the diversity in athletic skill was the key, PLUS no ones else on the female side really took the game seriously, except the nordic countries and china...

                    germany, has pushed recently, say late 90's onwards...

                    england didn't care one iota until very recently...

                    france has used clarefontaine to develop there female game..

                    henry was a clarefontaine product...

                    women and men can play one/two touch game, it's not like basketball where the air game in basketball makes the two games different...

                    the best female american was michelle akers, great goal scorer, better goals per match, by far, than anyone ever...

                    then transitioned in 1999 to a holding mid, and became the best one there ever....

                    watch barecelona or arsenal, and that's the direction i want the female game in america and around the globe to go...

                    no reason women can't play like them....brasil does so already

                    i'm not asking them to play CLOCKWORK ORANGE!!

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by az2004
                      usa women have NOT played the beautiful game!
                      Again - we have not been watching the same team. The women have played a much better game than the men for 20 years. And the men aren't THAT bad (FIFA's 18th is probably close).

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by tafnut
                        Again - we have not been watching the same team. The women have played a much better game than the men for 20 years. And the men aren't THAT bad (FIFA's 18th is probably close).
                        Yeah, but it sure was a dissappointment in last year's World Cup though.

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                        • #87
                          http://www.ussoccer.com/articles/viewAr ... 68322.html

                          it's pia sundhage to run the female us team ....

                          excellent choice, have known her during her 2 years with the philly charge....

                          she will give OTHER players a look, not just the ordained few.!!!!

                          congrats to pia and sunil gulati...

                          gulati botched the klinsmann deal with the men, but got it right here

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by az2004
                            it's pia sundhage to run the female us team ....
                            excellent choice, have known her during her 2 years with the philly charge....she will give OTHER players a look, not just the ordained few.!!!!
                            congrats to pia and sunil gulati...gulati botched the klinsmann deal with the men, but got it right here
                            So what do you think are our realistic odds in Beijing? I can't see us beating Ger or Bzl, but we might get 'lucky' (only need one good bounce at this level sometimes) and make the Gold game.

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                            • #89
                              well, usa has tyo qualify, which will happen, as i believe concacaf gets 2 slots....so canada and usa would seem likely to advance...

                              although one of these days mexico will beat the usa women, but it's a longshot..

                              now, if mexico hosts the tourney...they have a bigger shot...

                              MENS OLY quals for concacaf are LA, TAMPA, for group play, with NASHVILLE the elimination phase... usa men are in tampa..

                              germany is fine as long as prinz plays. although germany won wc in 2003 and were NOT the same team in 2004, so do they play like the 2007 team in 2008, or like the drop off in 2004...

                              brasil, i believe the more they play the better they'll get, so i'd hope they wouldn't just wait for oly quals to get their act together...

                              right now, 3 teams can beat usa...brasil, germany and north korea...

                              heather mitts will be back from an acl, so usa will have a right back who can attack, and get the crosses, GOOD CROSSES in...sundhage coached her for two years

                              i would take o'reilly and put her out on the right wing, where her speed and skill can be used...

                              take lilly and partner her with wambach....lilly is the most skilled usa women and having her touch passes work off wambach, i think they can be dangerous...

                              and aly wagner needs to be healthy to run the usa offense...

                              i'd bet on usa winning gold, because i think sundhage will make the right moves, in tactics and personnell

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                              • #90
                                http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/14/sport ... ref=slogin
                                But the 47-year-old Sundhage said she wanted the team to gain more technical expertise and confidence in playing an attacking style.

                                During the Women’s World Cup, the United States often appeared unwilling or unable to play through the midfield, relying instead on an uncertain long-ball approach. This deficiency was exposed in an opening draw against North Korea and in the semifinal defeat to Brazil.

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