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I get it! Phyllis wants us to turn back the clock 40 years, so we can gain a handful of U.S. medals in men's sports.
But how many women's medals would America lose as a result?
I'm well aware of the hit men's track has taken because of Title IX interpretations by colleges (and their failure to realize that football is the death of us all), but Title IX is just an outgrowth of the civil rights movement.
Of course, Phyllis would just love to revive the Confederacy as well.
How many medals would the United States and Confederate States win combined? (That assumes that blacks are allowed to compete for the Grays.)
K E NK E N
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Originally posted by imaginativeThe connection between Title IX and the relative failures at the OG is
obviously speculative; however, it is one more sign that various kinds of
ideologically driven affirmative-action programmes can do more harm than
good. Equal _opportunities_, not equal out-come, should be the basis.
And last I checked, the U.S. ended up with more medals than anyone else, and women won at least some of those medals didn't they?
Phyllis Schafly is an idiot and always has been.
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For what it is worth, she is probably right to a degree about wrestling and gymnastics (though I don't think that people take up certain sports just to land scholarships) as well as the fact that the proportionalilty rule sucks.
However, this article is just ridiculus in that it doesn't even mention FOOTBALL -- the real problem for men's sports like gymnastics and wrestling (and t&f and cc to a lesser extent) getting cut at the college level.
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Originally posted by kevinsdadOriginally posted by imaginativeThe connection between Title IX and the relative failures at the OG is
obviously speculative; however, it is one more sign that various kinds of
ideologically driven affirmative-action programmes can do more harm than
good. Equal _opportunities_, not equal out-come, should be the basis.
And last I checked, the U.S. ended up with more medals than anyone else, and women won at least some of those medals didn't they?
Phyllis Schafly is an idiot and always has been.
say was that some of the numbers (presuming that they are correct) and ideas
(if somewhat speculative) in the article are one more sign [and so on].
As for Phyllis mental capacities: I have absolutely no idea who he (she?
girly name) is, or what kind of ideas are normally to be expected.
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I believe Title IX is whacky and destructive mostly because of the "equity" rather than " equality" provisions. Still, football IS the major problem with Title IX, no about that.
As for the damage at the OG's, the case is very weak. Volleyball comes to mind, where our men's indoor team won gold in a sport where men's D1 teams are (and have been) limited to 3.5 scholarships per team maximum and very few men's D1 teams compete. While the women, with a quantum leap more teams and scholarships at the college level finished 2nd... a wonderful achievement (one wonders what the women might have done with May and Walsh on the indoor team these last several years) but the facts do not fit the anti-Title IX argument.
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Phyllis is probably pushing 80yo. by now so she's probably not up on these things. But someone should tell her that most of the world's olympic-caliber athletes receive support from the state and were never getting college grants-in-aid.
If she's really concerned about the state of our wrestling and men's gymnastics, she could push for different kinds of support.
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Originally posted by skyin' brianFor what it is worth, she is probably right to a degree about wrestling and gymnastics (though I don't think that people take up certain sports just to land scholarships) as well as the fact that the proportionalilty rule sucks.
However, this article is just ridiculus in that it doesn't even mention FOOTBALL -- the real problem for men's sports like gymnastics and wrestling (and t&f and cc to a lesser extent) getting cut at the college level.
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Originally posted by 26mi235Originally posted by skyin' brianFor what it is worth, she is probably right to a degree about wrestling and gymnastics (though I don't think that people take up certain sports just to land scholarships) as well as the fact that the proportionalilty rule sucks.
However, this article is just ridiculus in that it doesn't even mention FOOTBALL -- the real problem for men's sports like gymnastics and wrestling (and t&f and cc to a lesser extent) getting cut at the college level.
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