Ryder Cup

[eldrick]

almost here now

americans at disadvantage again because valhalla is a course they have no overwhelming familiarity with compared to euros ( the euro venues for ryder cup are all regular courses on euro tour which the euros play yearly & know them like the back of their hand ) & resembles a euro course in being quite a wide open, bangers' course & you can score easily on it ( compared to other major courses ) - tiger tied with bob may last time at -18 with a few guys at ~ -12 & 2 - 3 rounds of 63 last time

americans needed to at least get something approaching a USOpen layout to give an edge to their usually straighter driving & better putting on fast, tricky greens - they won't get it here

americans are already 1 point down going into it...

[eldrick]

interesting note - this isn't under auspices of regular pga tour, but the pga of america, who's tourney is the USPGA

[dukehjsteve]

US problem in Ryder Cup:

THEY CAN'T PUTT
( aka known as stiff-neck-itis)

[bambam]

US problem in Ryder Cup:

THEY CAN'T PUTT
( aka known as stiff-neck-itis)

so why are you now dukehjsteve again.

As to Ryder Cup - yawn.

[guru]

so why are you now dukehjsteve again.

Guess you missed the explanation in the other thread.


http://mb.trackandfieldnews.com/discuss ... 913#498913

[bambam]

so why are you now dukehjsteve again.

Guess you missed the explanation in the other thread.


http://mb.trackandfieldnews.com/discuss ... 913#498913

I did, thanx

[DrJay]

My HS running buddy lives near the Valhalla course. They closed his kids' school for the week because of all the traffic and congestion.

[eldrick]

americans doing superbly !

they won't lose this now - too determined for revenge

one funny quote from american commentator

who is oliver wilson ?

is he a member of parliament ?

nick faldo's butler ?

[Jaack]

americans doing superbly !

they won't lose this now - too determined for revenge

one funny quote from american commentator

who is oliver wilson ?

is he a member of parliament ?

nick faldo's butler ?

We'll see. I'd like to think you're wrong.

I don't agree that the Euro players are always familiar with the Euro Courses. The K Club, although a fantastic course, was actually played by more of the US team than the Euro team back in 2006 prior to the tourny- !

I LOVE the way the crowd "boo" Boo! :lol:

The "USA, USA, USA " chants are so grating however! :P

[eldrick]

it's home of euro open - euro players have played it for years

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smurfit_European_Open

[gh]

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As to Ryder Cup - yawn.

May be boring to an insider, but I think the general public eats it up. I was in the Red Carpet Club at SeaTac for a couple of hours yesterday and there was a nonstop stream of people coming over to teh TV set to ask what the score was. Track should be such a yawner.

[tandfman]

USA wins.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/sport ... ryder.html

[gm]

Now THAT was golf the way I enjoy it. Raucous, exciting, lots of noise.

[observer2]

Now THAT was golf the way I enjoy it. Raucous, exciting, lots of noise.

Yes, and it´s nice to see a crowd that don´t have to be ridiculously silent all the time as in some other tournaments.

But there was also some unbelievable childish behavior from US crowd.
Laughing and buuu-ing when European player misses his putt. Nightly telephone calls to European players and other inmature behavours.

Maybe this will change when the US spectators get used to their "freedom"?

[bambam]

Now THAT was golf the way I enjoy it. Raucous, exciting, lots of noise.

Yes, and it´s nice to see a crowd that don´t have to be ridiculously silent all the time as in some other tournaments.

But there was also some unbelievable childish behavior from US crowd.
Laughing and buuu-ing when European player misses his putt. Nightly telephone calls to European players and other inmature behavours.

Maybe this will change when the US spectators get used to their "freedom"?

On the other hand, Seve Ballesteros used to play for the European Ryder Cup team, and his behavior alone in those matches more than offsets any poor behavior by 20-30K American spectators.