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  • #16
    [quote=proofs in the pudd'in]
    Originally posted by tandfman
    Originally posted by "proofs in the pudd'in":3p99jpam
    Like the founders of America they believed that a free society would not work if there was alack of moral restraint - not goverment restraint.
    Oh, really? I must have missed that. :roll:
    John Adams:

    "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." --October 11, 1798[/quote:3p99jpam]
    I wasn't referring to the Founding Fathers. I was referring to "they." I assumed that the antecedent was the makers of the film. I thought it was a stretch to infer that belief from the film.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by tandfman
      I think that's what you were supposed to think. One of the points of the thing, I think, is that people aren't always what they appear to be. Not all guys in suits are heartless and greedy, even if they are capitalists, which he might have been. (From his appearance, one also might have guessed that he was a contract assassin.)

      One thing a lot of people mistake is not realizing that both conservatives and liberals endorse the concept of charity. As in most things, it is the extreme fringes of both groups who take it to a different place.

      But take heart: I'm sure Ayn Rand is rolling over in her grave. :]


      Also, I think the guy in the suit was more representative of the stereotype of the societal subgroup who "shouldn't" have time to stop because they are so busy moving on to their next appointment. A stark contrast to the previous people in the flick who obviously weren't in much of a hurry to get anywhere or do anything.

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      • #18
        [quote=tandfman]
        Originally posted by proofs in the pudd'in
        Originally posted by tandfman
        Originally posted by "proofs in the pudd'in":1jipkrqu
        Like the founders of America they believed that a free society would not work if there was alack of moral restraint - not goverment restraint.
        Oh, really? I must have missed that. :roll:
        John Adams:

        "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." --October 11, 1798
        I wasn't referring to the Founding Fathers. I was referring to "they." I assumed that the antecedent was the makers of the film. I thought it was a stretch to infer that belief from the film.[/quote:1jipkrqu]

        Well thanks for the clarification - I should have been more clear - sorry.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by proofs in the pudd'in
          [

          Speaking of stereotypes...

          Good way to sully a nice thread.
          You right I will delete that if you want? Of course it was with a [/quote]



          Thanks.

          Don't mean to play thought police. Just thought it didn't fit right here. Hope I wasn't out of line myself.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Brian
            Originally posted by proofs in the pudd'in
            [

            Speaking of stereotypes...

            Good way to sully a nice thread.
            You right I will delete that if you want? Of course it was with a


            Thanks.

            Don't mean to play thought police. Just thought it didn't fit right here. Hope I wasn't out of line myself.[/quote]

            No your right I took it in a different direction.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Brian
              I think the guy in the suit was more representative of the stereotype of the societal subgroup who "shouldn't" have time to stop because they are so busy moving on to their next appointment.
              And he almost did not stop. Did he not pass and then return?

              Just out of interest what does his original sign say?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Daisy
                Originally posted by Brian
                I think the guy in the suit was more representative of the stereotype of the societal subgroup who "shouldn't" have time to stop because they are so busy moving on to their next appointment.
                And he almost did not stop. Did he not pass and then return?

                Just out of interest what does his original sign say?
                "Have compassion. I am blind."

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