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  • #16
    Ok, I saw it, was entertained for however long it lasted, didn't believe a minute of it ,enjoyed the travelogue, scoffed at the notion that little lake represented the Bolivian water supply, re-marveled at the stunts and miraculous escapes.
    What more can you ask of a movie?

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    • #17
      Saw it tonight.

      Great action, Great Bond, scenic, some visual sequences were outstanding and I even liked the theme music with the unlikely pairing of Jack White and Alicia Keys... and the plot did not make even one little bit of sense. It wasn't just a weak plot, there was NO plot. The story seemed to have something to do with oil, and fantastical underground hi-jacked water supplies, and pretty girls, and a bunch of guys who sort of resembled, well ... the Illuminati !!!

      Entertaining, but I won't watch it again. Conversely, I could watch any of the Bourne movies over again many times. Bourne always has a straightforward, comprehensible purpose in all the impossible mayhem he works.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by jhc68
        I could watch any of the Bourne movies over again many times.
        I like Bourne too, but my quibble with those films, and this one, is that we are TOO close to the action scenes. The opening parkour scene in Casino Royale was so good because we go see everything they were doing from sufficient distance to be awed by the magnitude of the stunts. But in the Bourne movies, and this one, we are too much in medias res and it's difficult to gain a perspective on what's happening. It's more visceral, but less comprehensible. I wanna know who's doing what to whom!!!

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        • #19
          Re: Quantum of Solace

          Originally posted by Marlow
          what the panners missed is that this film is intentionally one-dimensional. It's about his need for cold-blooded revenge. As such, we lack the wry humor, the sensual female shenanigans and the Q-inspired high-tech gadgetry. In its place we have a monomanical rendering of an efficient killing machine, which is exactly what Bond is. So I loved it (duh). Your mileage may vary. :wink:

          Also Bond early in the career.

          How many of us were as suave as we are now (cough, cough!) when we were younger?

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          • #20
            We are supposed to enjoy James Bond movies. It's not real. Why do we need a somber, scowling, vindictive, driven Bond?

            I saw "Casino Royale" and Craig was quite good and I will probably see the new one. However, there is no way I get the same enjoyment out of these movies, compared to what I got out of "From Russia with Love" or Goldfinger.
            Why does it have to be so serious now?

            BTW Best Bond girl? Ursula Andress!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Per Andersen
              We are supposed to enjoy James Bond movies. It's not real. Why do we need a somber, scowling, vindictive, driven Bond?
              I thoroughly enjoyed this darker Bond. It had the best Bond weekend ever to the tune of $70,000,000. That said, I hope they now return to something closer to Casino Royale.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Marlow
                Originally posted by Per Andersen
                We are supposed to enjoy James Bond movies. It's not real. Why do we need a somber, scowling, vindictive, driven Bond?
                I thoroughly enjoyed this darker Bond. It had the best Bond weekend ever to the tune of $70,000,000. That said, I hope they now return to something closer to Casino Royale.
                Does Bond at least have some cool gadgets in this new offering? :x
                phsstt!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Marlow
                  Originally posted by Per Andersen
                  We are supposed to enjoy James Bond movies. It's not real. Why do we need a somber, scowling, vindictive, driven Bond?
                  I thoroughly enjoyed this darker Bond. It had the best Bond weekend ever to the tune of $70,000,000. That said, I hope they now return to something closer to Casino Royale.

                  As I alluded to in my earlier post, I see them showing a younger Bond, with all the (non) subtlties of youth, plus the "lost-love/out for vengeance" thing, both of which--if done properly--can only highlight the to-come cool, sophisticated model.

                  I do hope this is the bigger picture being seen by the movers of the franchise. If so, it could be quite fascinating (and fun) to watch the character go from Jason Bourne to James Bond as age and experience grants wisdom and quells impetutousness.

                  When he finally says, "Bond, James Bond." we'll know he's made it back all the way.


                  Regarding Bond Bests: "Goldfinger" had many gems, including best line by a villain ["Do you expect me to talk, Goldfinger?" "No, Mr. Bond. I expect you to die."], and best name for a Bond Babe: Impossible to keep from smiling when saying the name Pussy Galore. :] <- (see?)

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                  • #24
                    Time magazine's senior movie critic, Richard Corliss, nails the movie's appeal in the latest issue. Excerpting:
                    Daniel Craig plays Bond now, and his turn in Casino Royale in 2006 hit the reset button on the franchise. Like the Christian Bale Batman Begins, the Craig Casino showed a young man taking his first steps toward superhero status. He was stern and ferocious, similar to protagonists in the grittier, glummer, more violent action-adventure films of the past few years. The new 007 was the ultimate fighter, not the ultimate lover. Well, an action figure, real or plastic, is just what this brisk exercise needs. What's lost in reverberations from the series' blithe old movies is gained in daredevil vigor. So don't sit shivah over that anachronistic 007. Just enjoy a pulverizing action-adventure film whose hero happens to be named Jason Bourne--sorry, James Bond.
                    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 81,00.html

                    Moral: If you're looking for the old Bond, he's as gone as the Cold War that spawned him. This is a new Bond for the post-9/11 world. Some may see him as too much Bauer and Bourne, but he's still the best.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Marlow
                      Time magazine's senior movie critic, Richard Corliss, nails the movie's appeal in the latest issue. Excerpting:
                      Daniel Craig plays Bond now, and his turn in Casino Royale in 2006 hit the reset button on the franchise. Like the Christian Bale Batman Begins, the Craig Casino showed a young man taking his first steps toward superhero status. He was stern and ferocious, similar to protagonists in the grittier, glummer, more violent action-adventure films of the past few years. The new 007 was the ultimate fighter, not the ultimate lover. Well, an action figure, real or plastic, is just what this brisk exercise needs. What's lost in reverberations from the series' blithe old movies is gained in daredevil vigor. So don't sit shivah over that anachronistic 007. Just enjoy a pulverizing action-adventure film whose hero happens to be named Jason Bourne--sorry, James Bond.
                      http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 81,00.html

                      Moral: If you're looking for the old Bond, he's as gone as the Cold War that spawned him. This is a new Bond for the post-9/11 world. Some may see him as too much Bauer and Bourne, but he's still the best.
                      So Jason Bourne and James Bond are now interchangeable. What's the point then?
                      Post - 9/11 world? You sound like you can't wait for a Jason Bourne/Sam Spade movie.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Per Andersen
                        So Jason Bourne and James Bond are now interchangeable. What's the point then?
                        Hardly. If you've seen QoS, you'd see there is little similarity in personality or circumstances.

                        Originally posted by Per Andersen
                        Post - 9/11 world? You sound like you can't wait for a Jason Bourne/Sam Spade movie.
                        The post-9/11 world is fundamentally different than the Cold War Era Bond was created in. The Daniel Craig 007 will develop into the suave, sophisticated, glib, wry spy we know and love, but for right now, he's a bitter intel operative with a license to kill. 8-)

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                        • #27
                          [quote=Marlow]
                          Originally posted by Per Andersen
                          So Jason Bourne and James Bond are now interchangeable. What's the point then?
                          Hardly. If you've seen QoS, you'd see there is little similarity in personality or circumstances.

                          Originally posted by "Per Andersen":33vollz4
                          Post - 9/11 world? You sound like you can't wait for a Jason Bourne/Sam Spade movie.
                          The post-9/11 world is fundamentally different than the Cold War Era Bond was created in. The Daniel Craig 007 will develop into the suave, sophisticated, glib, wry spy we know and love, but for right now, he's a bitter intel operative with a license to kill. 8-)[/quote:33vollz4]
                          Now I'm really confused. I merely quoted from the last line of the Corliss piece but that was no good. And now i find out that there will be suavite, sophistication and glibness in the post-9/11 world of Bond after all. It's all good then!

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                          • #28
                            Saw it tonight and loved it. The gadgets were nowhere to be seen, but it was still fun. By the way, wasn't that Sean Connery sitting in the lobby of the hotel in Haiti early in the movie?

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                            • #29
                              I saw it over the weekend...and was a bit underwhelmed. As some above have said, the plot (to me) didn't make any sense whatsoever. There may have actually been a logical narrative in there somewhere, but it totally escaped me... Lots of chasing, shooting, and crashing...not so much story... I like the idea of the "dark" tone of this film more than the reality, and miss the concept of Bond being at least a 2-dimensional character, rather than strictly a one-dimensional one...

                              I've had a few folks ask me which Bond film is "the best," and I always suggest that they see them in chronological order, starting with the first--if they're not hooked with the first 3 or 4 in the franchise, it's just not their thing...

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Marlow
                                [Moral: If you're looking for the old Bond, he's as gone as the Cold War that spawned him. This is a new Bond for the post-9/11 world.

                                Not as gone as some may think/hope: By 2010, using an international situation as reason, Putin re-instates himself as Russian head.

                                And we are back to the good old days. Dig those cloaks and daggers out of the closets, boys!

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