Florida beats Oklahoma

[Texas]

By Jan 8th, Percy Harvin will be back and ready to roll. Bad news for the Sooners. Now add the fact the Oklahoma Sooners haven't figured out how to deal with bowl games recently. Check it out...

2007..lost to W Virginia 49-28
2006..lost to Boise State 43-32
2005..beat Oregon 17-14
2004..lost to USC 55-19
2003..lost to LSU 21-14

There really is soimething to dealing with that big layoff between the last regular season game and the bowl game. Some teams don't play their best ball after all that down time. Oklahoma appears to be one of those. Florida has won two of their last three bowl games. We can only count the Urban Meyers era.

With Tebow's will to win and all that Gator..zoooomm.!!!!...I can't see the Sooners "finally" winning the big game vs a team as talented as the Gators. Florida 36 Oklahoma 24

[Dietmar239]

Most of those bowl games you list didn't have Sam Bradford. I would not count him out so quickly. This is NOT the same OU team you've seen before.

Also, you mention "finally" winning the big one. Here's a few stats for your notebook.

OU has the most victories and best winning percentage of any team since the end of WW II. They have eaned seven AP national chapmpionships and are recognized by the NCAA for 16 titles.

Victories (1946-2008) #1 - 547
Winning Percentage (46'-08) #1 - 76%
Weeks Ranked #1 in AP - #1 - 97
Weeks Ranked Top 5 in AP - #1 - 366
Weeks Ranked #1 BCS - #1 - 19
Weeks Ranked Top 5 BCS - #1 - 45
All-time Points Scored - #1 - 30,479

[Marlow]

Tex, just don't make this a LOCK like the Patriots over Giants Super Bowl pick!! :wink:

[Texas]

Most of those bowl games you list didn't have Sam Bradford. I would not count him out so quickly. This is NOT the same OU team you've seen before.

This Sooner team lost the big "away from Norman" game to Texas. This Florida team won their big game "away from Gainesville" vs Alabama. Forget what they did at home, it's all about how they do as roadwarriors since the big game will be in Miami. Under Stoopes the Sooners are 4-5 in bowls, under Meyers the Gators are 2-1 in bowls. Urban Meyers is 4-1 in bowls since 2003. So he knows how to manage the down time.

[Texas]

Tex, just don't make this a LOCK like the Patriots over Giants Super Bowl pick!! :wink:

I'm gonna win farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr more of these games than I lose.....trust me! It's all about fundamentals that us serious handicappers are aware of. Check out how NFL teams do when faced with back to back road games. Of the 48 times we've seen that scenario only 6 times has the away team won both. Yes a bad "spot" for any NFL team. So how about winning teams losing back to back home games...hmmm?

[Dietmar239]

Was the Big XII championship in Norman, OK? Florida may be road-tested vs an Alabama team that has played Clemson (7-5), Georgia (9-3), and I don't even think we should mention LSU. So really, who has Bama played this year in the mighty SEC?

It's also convenient to forget that Florida lost at HOME to an unranked team when OU hasn't lost at home since.....

What happened in Stillwater, on the road? How did TX do against the same team in Austin??

[Texas]

Was the Big XII championship in Norman, OK? Florida may be road-tested vs an Alabama team that has played Clemson (7-5), Georgia (9-3), and I don't even think we should mention LSU. So really, who has Bama played this year in the mighty SEC?

It's also convenient to forget that Florida lost at HOME to an unranked team when OU hasn't lost at home since.....

What happened in Stillwater, on the road? How did TX do against the same team in Austin??

Oklahoma was favored by how much vs Missouri? The "big game" was against Texas not Missouri.

The bowl games are different because of that crazy layoff. So we look for those programs that do know how to handle the situation. Urban Meyers does far better than Bob Stoopes as far as having his teams ready to play. Three of the last four years the Sooners have given up 43, 48 and 55 points in bowl games. Sure if Florida was "at" Norman next week, we'd be talking something totally different. To take a month off then play a big game in Miami is what this is about. So far Urban Meyers teams have dealth with those types of situations better. I see no reason that should stop this season.

[Dietmar239]

Was the Big XII championship in Norman, OK? Florida may be road-tested vs an Alabama team that has played Clemson (7-5), Georgia (9-3), and I don't even think we should mention LSU. So really, who has Bama played this year in the mighty SEC?

It's also convenient to forget that Florida lost at HOME to an unranked team when OU hasn't lost at home since.....

What happened in Stillwater, on the road? How did TX do against the same team in Austin??

Oklahoma was favored by how much vs Missouri? The "big game" was against Texas not Missouri.

The bowl games are different because of that crazy layoff. So we look for those programs that do know how to handle the situation. Urban Meyers does far better than Bob Stoopes as far as having his teams ready to play. Three of the last four years the Sooners have given up 43, 48 and 55 points in bowl games. Sure if Florida was "at" Norman next week, we'd be talking something totally different. To take a month off then play a big game in Miami is what this is about. So far Urban Meyers teams have dealth with those types of situations better. I see no reason that should stop this season.

And I do. His name is Sam Bradford.

[Texas]

Was the Big XII championship in Norman, OK? Florida may be road-tested vs an Alabama team that has played Clemson (7-5), Georgia (9-3), and I don't even think we should mention LSU. So really, who has Bama played this year in the mighty SEC?

It's also convenient to forget that Florida lost at HOME to an unranked team when OU hasn't lost at home since.....

What happened in Stillwater, on the road? How did TX do against the same team in Austin??

Oklahoma was favored by how much vs Missouri? The "big game" was against Texas not Missouri.

The bowl games are different because of that crazy layoff. So we look for those programs that do know how to handle the situation. Urban Meyers does far better than Bob Stoopes as far as having his teams ready to play. Three of the last four years the Sooners have given up 43, 48 and 55 points in bowl games. Sure if Florida was "at" Norman next week, we'd be talking something totally different. To take a month off then play a big game in Miami is what this is about. So far Urban Meyers teams have dealth with those types of situations better. I see no reason that should stop this season.

And I do. His name is Sam Bradford.

Bradford doesn't play defense and it appears neither does Oklahoma.


Defense rankings

1 Southern California 12 732 2473 3.38 11 206.08 11 1 0
2 TCU 12 684 2581 3.77 17 215.08 10 2 0
3 Alabama 13 793 3340 4.21 21 256.92 12 1 0
4 Tennessee 12 776 3162 4.07 20 263.50 5 7 0
5 Penn St. 12 759 3167 4.17 17 263.92 11 1 0
6 Boston College 13 833 3554 4.27 30 273.38 9 4 0
7 Virginia Tech 13 740 3602 4.87 26 277.08 9 4 0
8 Ohio St. 12 759 3351 4.42 18 279.25 10 2 0
9****** Florida *************************************
10 Connecticut 12 729 3377 4.63 28 281.42 7 5 0
11 South Carolina 12 738 3467 4.70 30 288.92 7 5 0
12 Iowa 12 796 3474 4.36 16 289.50 8 4 0
13 Florida St. 12 738 3501 4.74 28 291.75 8 4 0
13 South Fla. 12 749 3501 4.67 29 291.75 7 5 0
15 Mississippi 12 776 3525 4.54 25 293.75 8 4 0
16 Boise St. 12 838 3534 4.22 19 294.50 12 0 0
17 Clemson 12 800 3538 4.42 23 294.83 7 5 0
18 Utah 12 761 3551 4.67 26 295.92 12 0 0
19 Wake Forest 12 785 3604 4.59 25 300.33 7 5 0
20 Arizona 12 740 3625 4.90 29 302.08 7 5 0
21 Northern Ill. 12 717 3644 5.08 26 303.67 6 6 0
22 San Jose St. 12 781 3740 4.79 32 311.67 6 6 0
23 Georgia Tech 12 785 3752 4.78 28 312.67 9 3 0
24 California 12 854 3785 4.43 31 315.42 8 4 0
25 Miami (Fla.) 12 778 3789 4.87 36 315.75 7 5 0
26 Cincinnati 13 881 4109 4.66 30 316.08 11 2 0
27 Auburn 12 777 3813 4.91 27 317.75 5 7 0
28 Georgia 12 743 3820 5.14 41 318.33 9 3 0
29 Vanderbilt 12 779 3824 4.91 30 318.67 6 6 0
30 Troy 12 869 3835 4.41 31 319.58 8 4 0
31 Pittsburgh 12 774 3850 4.97 35 320.83 9 3 0
32 Wisconsin 12 779 3868 4.97 37 322.33 7 5 0
33 Oregon St. 12 743 3880 5.22 35 323.33 8 4 0
34 Rutgers 12 725 3887 5.36 25 323.92 7 5 0
35 West Virginia 12 848 3906 4.61 23 325.50 8 4 0
36 LSU 12 781 3918 5.02 39 326.50 7 5 0
37 Kentucky 12 769 3924 5.10 34 327.00 6 6 0
38 Notre Dame 12 789 3930 4.98 32 327.50 6 6 0
38 Mississippi St. 12 767 3930 5.12 35 327.50 4 8 0
40 Wyoming 12 812 3956 4.87 40 329.67 4 8 0
41 Virginia 12 821 3999 4.87 32 333.25 5 7 0
42 UCF 12 847 4005 4.73 34 333.75 4 8 0
43 East Carolina 13 874 4352 4.98 34 334.77 9 4 0
44 Arizona St. 12 834 4022 4.82 30 335.17 5 7 0
45 Air Force 12 810 4024 4.97 32 335.33 8 4 0
46 New Mexico 12 805 4029 5.00 34 335.75 4 8 0
47 Arkansas St. 12 781 4038 5.17 36 336.50 6 6 0
48 UCLA 12 792 4049 5.11 44 337.42 4 8 0
49 Army 12 724 4074 5.63 34 339.50 3 9 0
50 Texas 12 783 4079 5.21 27 339.92 11 1 0
51 Navy 12 749 4102 5.48 34 341.83 8 4 0
52 Memphis 12 696 4103 5.90 40 341.92 6 6 0
53 Northwestern 12 852 4116 4.83 28 343.00 9 3 0
54 Bowling Green 12 816 4121 5.05 35 343.42 6 6 0
55 Ball St. 13 861 4523 5.25 30 347.92 12 1 0
56 Ohio 12 819 4183 5.11 41 348.58 4 8 0
57 Illinois 12 806 4204 5.22 39 350.33 5 7 0
58 BYU 12 819 4211 5.14 33 350.92 10 2 0
59 Hawaii 13 862 4574 5.31 43 351.85 7 6 0
60 Maryland 12 832 4260 5.12 30 355.00 7 5 0
61 Duke 12 790 4283 5.42 35 356.92 4 8 0
62 Michigan St. 12 808 4295 5.32 34 357.92 9 3 0
62 North Carolina 12 876 4295 4.90 29 357.92 8 4 0
64 Purdue 12 826 4297 5.20 36 358.08 4 8 0
65 Oklahoma****************************************** ouch!

Notice the lack of Big12 teams there? Only Texas being in the top 50

As you can see Bradford and Tebow are right there together and Tebow is the better runner.

1 Sam Bradford, Oklahoma QB SO 13 442 302 68.33 6 1.36 4464 10.10 48 10.86 186.3
2 David Johnson, Tulsa QB SR 13 375 243 64.80 18 4.80 3866 10.31 43 11.47 179.6
3 Colt McCoy, Texas QB JR 12 375 291 77.60 7 1.87 3445 9.19 32 8.53 179.2
4 Zac Robinson, Oklahoma St. QB JR 12 264 177 67.05 8 3.03 2735 10.36 24 9.09 178.0
5 Tim Tebow, Florida QB JR 13 268 174 64.93 2 .75 2515 9.38 28 10.45 176.7

[Dietmar239]

OU has played some of the most high-powered offenses in the county this year, which FLA cannot claim. I'd like to see if their defense would have held up under the schedule that OU has faced.

Offensive Leaders

TX-Tech #4
Tx - #5
Mizzou - #6
Ok. State #8
Neb #18
TCU #20
K-State #21
Baylor #46
Cincinatti #51

FLA has played:

Hawaii #68
Tenn #111
LSU #36
Georgia #29
Vanderbilt #104
South Carolina #92
Alabama #30!!!!

Additionally, Florida has not played any of the top 10 offensively ranked teams and OU has played four of them.

[Marlow]

OU has played some of the most high-powered offenses in the county this year, which FLA cannot claim.

I beg your pardon. Florida has INDEED faced all the best teams in Alachua County! Oh, you mean in Cleveland County, OK? Dunno!

[Texas]

OU has played some of the most high-powered offenses in the county this year, which FLA cannot claim. I'd like to see if their defense would have held up under the schedule that OU has faced.

Offensive Leaders

TX-Tech #4
Tx - #5
Mizzou - #6
Ok. State #8
Neb #18
TCU #20
K-State #21
Baylor #46
Cincinatti #51

FLA has played:

Hawaii #68
Tenn #111
LSU #36
Georgia #29
Vanderbilt #104
South Carolina #92
Alabama #30!!!!

Additionally, Florida has not played any of the top 10 offensively ranked teams and OU has played four of them.

So why is Flolrida favored...hmmm?

[Marlow]

So why is Flolrida favored...hmmm?

The line is only 3 now - I bet it edges higher. I'd bet a Coke with 5 points!

[Dietmar239]

OU has played some of the most high-powered offenses in the county this year, which FLA cannot claim. I'd like to see if their defense would have held up under the schedule that OU has faced.

Offensive Leaders

TX-Tech #4
Tx - #5
Mizzou - #6
Ok. State #8
Neb #18
TCU #20
K-State #21
Baylor #46
Cincinatti #51

FLA has played:

Hawaii #68
Tenn #111
LSU #36
Georgia #29
Vanderbilt #104
South Carolina #92
Alabama #30!!!!

Additionally, Florida has not played any of the top 10 offensively ranked teams and OU has played four of them.

So why is Flolrida favored...hmmm?

Because it would be blasphemy to put an SEC team beneath the Big XII. :lol:

[Texas]

So why is Flolrida favored...hmmm?

The line is only 3 now - I bet it edges higher. I'd bet a Coke with 5 points!

We can't ignore Oklahoma losing to Texas "away from Norman". When it' was "really big" they lost. When Florida had to have it "away from Gainesville" they won. Let's see where the line is at on the 1st..ok?