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  • OU is the #1 ranked football team of all time

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3849468
    If you're ever walking down the beach and you see a girl dressed in a bikini made out of seashells, and you pick her up and hold her to your ear, you can hear her scream.

  • #2
    If we took an all time Oklahoma team vs an all time USC it would be over by halftime. USC has had more quality players than any other college. Just to mention a few...

    Ronnie Lott
    Junior Seau
    O.J.Simpson
    Troy Palamalu
    Marcus Allen

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    • #3
      It doesn't look like they're looking at it from that standpoint. Looks to be wins vs losses.
      If you're ever walking down the beach and you see a girl dressed in a bikini made out of seashells, and you pick her up and hold her to your ear, you can hear her scream.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Dietmar239
        It doesn't look like they're looking at it from that standpoint. Looks to be wins vs losses.
        Then we need to look at what non conferences teams Oklahoma play? Like the Pac10, there are good years and bad years as far as the Big12 goes. USC plays the better non conference schedule.

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        • #5
          Texas, it's pretty simple whether you choose to see it or not. They are the winningest program in NCAA history. You can add whatever caveat you choose to but the numbers do not lie.
          If you're ever walking down the beach and you see a girl dressed in a bikini made out of seashells, and you pick her up and hold her to your ear, you can hear her scream.

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          • #6
            You're both right. Argument over.
            There are no strings on me

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Dietmar239
              Texas, it's pretty simple whether you choose to see it or not. They are the winningest program in NCAA history. You can add whatever caveat you choose to but the numbers do not lie.
              With USC ranked number two I think it's realistic to take into considering the schedules played. If we want a "real" rankings. If it's just number of wins.....ok Oklahoma. I do have this weird trip about quality of opposition.

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              • #8
                "ESPN's Prestige Rankings are a numerical method of ranking the best FBS college football programs since the 1936 season."

                So why is 1936 the magic year?

                Are they afraid that Notre Dame leapfrogs to #1 if they go back another 10 or 15 years?

                Or is it that if you go back too much farther the top-5 or top-10 becomes unrecognizable to modern fans, eventually including Army, Penn, Harvard and Yale?

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                • #9
                  I think the unbiased ESPN writers chose the most logical means of determing the best ever, which is number of wins. There are many ways to further break it down, but none are as elemental. As far as USC's out of conference play vs. OU, again it's a strange comparison since we're talking about the history of the NCAA. It is limited to just view the Pac-10 since it has only been in existence since 78'. Previously it was the Big Five, Big 6 and Pacific 8 for decades. Similarly, the Big 12 was the Big 8, etc..... The conferences had totally different makeups and thus the teams have had a gazillion different schedules over the years with varying degrees of difficulties.
                  If you're ever walking down the beach and you see a girl dressed in a bikini made out of seashells, and you pick her up and hold her to your ear, you can hear her scream.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dietmar239
                    I think the unbiased ESPN writers chose the most logical means of determing the best ever, which is number of wins. There are many ways to further break it down, but none are as elemental. As far as USC's out of conference play vs. OU, again it's a strange comparison since we're talking about the history of the NCAA. It is limited to just view the Pac-10 since it has only been in existence since 78'. Previously it was the Big Five, Big 6 and Pacific 8 for decades. Similarly, the Big 12 was the Big 8, etc..... The conferences had totally different makeups and thus the teams have had a gazillion different schedules over the years with varying degrees of difficulties.
                    Most wins does not determine best ever anything. All that does is tell us who had the most wins.

                    What if Harvard had went undefeated the last 10 years in the Ivy League, does anyone really see them as being better than an SEC team that has a dozen less wins?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by dj
                      "ESPN's Prestige Rankings are a numerical method of ranking the best FBS college football programs since the 1936 season."

                      So why is 1936 the magic year?

                      Are they afraid that Notre Dame leapfrogs to #1 if they go back another 10 or 15 years?

                      Or is it that if you go back too much farther the top-5 or top-10 becomes unrecognizable to modern fans, eventually including Army, Penn, Harvard and Yale?
                      I believe they chose 1936 since records could be compared with the AP poll beginning that year.
                      If you're ever walking down the beach and you see a girl dressed in a bikini made out of seashells, and you pick her up and hold her to your ear, you can hear her scream.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Texas

                        What if Harvard had went undefeated the last 10 years in the Ivy League, does anyone really see them as being better than an SEC team that has a dozen less wins?
                        Since they compete in different subdivisions, no.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Texas
                          Originally posted by Dietmar239
                          I think the unbiased ESPN writers chose the most logical means of determing the best ever, which is number of wins. There are many ways to further break it down, but none are as elemental. As far as USC's out of conference play vs. OU, again it's a strange comparison since we're talking about the history of the NCAA. It is limited to just view the Pac-10 since it has only been in existence since 78'. Previously it was the Big Five, Big 6 and Pacific 8 for decades. Similarly, the Big 12 was the Big 8, etc..... The conferences had totally different makeups and thus the teams have had a gazillion different schedules over the years with varying degrees of difficulties.
                          Most wins does not determine best ever anything. All that does is tell us who had the most wins.

                          What if Harvard had went undefeated the last 10 years in the Ivy League, does anyone really see them as being better than an SEC team that has a dozen less wins?
                          Oh you're right. I apologize for not including:

                          Record since WWII (1946-) 547-165-13 (.763) - No. 1 in Nation
                          Record since AP Poll (1936-) 604-194-22 (.750) - No. 1 in Nation
                          All-Time in Conference 430-135-22 (.751)
                          All-Time in Big 12 75-29 (.721)
                          Most Consecutive Wins 47, 1953-1957 (NCAA Record)
                          All-Time Points Scored 30,493 - No. 1 in Nation
                          National Championships 7 (2000, 1985, 1975, 1974, 1956, 1955, 1950)
                          Title Years by Polling Organization 16 (Source - NCAA)
                          Conference Titles 42 (Last in 2008)
                          Big 12 Conference Titles 6 (2008, 2007, 2006, 2004, 2002, 2000)
                          Big 12 South Division Titles 7 (2008, 2007, 2006, 2004, 2003, 2002, 2000)
                          Weeks Ranked in AP Poll 677 (of 987 weekly polls since 1936)
                          Weeks at No. 1 in AP Poll 97 (No. 1 in Nation)
                          Weeks in Top 5 in AP Poll 368 (No. 1 in Nation)
                          Weeks in Top 10 in AP Poll 505 (No. 1 in Nation)
                          Years in Preseason AP Poll 50 (of 58 polls - preseason poll began in 1950)
                          Years in Final AP Poll 50 (of 73 polls) - No. 3 Nationally
                          Average Final AP Ranking 7.39 (No. 1 in the Nation)
                          Longest Streak Ranked in AP 158 Weeks (12th week of 1970 - 5th week of 1981)
                          Weeks Ranked No. 1 in BCS 19 Weeks (No. 1 in the Nation)
                          Weeks Ranked Top 5 in BCS 45 Weeks (No. 1 in the Nation)
                          If you're ever walking down the beach and you see a girl dressed in a bikini made out of seashells, and you pick her up and hold her to your ear, you can hear her scream.

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                          • #14
                            That's impressive but what's the bottom line? Wouldn't that be National Championships? USC has...11!!!!!!

                            Then there's...

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                            The USC Trojans are 5-2-1 against the Okahoma Sooners, although the two have never met later than October 2nd. The two will face each other for the BCS Title and, in all likelyhood, the National Championship in the Orange Bowl on January 4, 2005.
                            This is the second time the #1 USC Trojans will play a #2 Oklahoma team. In 1981, the #1 Trojans defeated the #2 Sooners 28-24 in front of 84,016 at the LA Coliseum.

                            Remember the score of that game?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Texas
                              That's impressive but what's the bottom line? Wouldn't that be National Championships? USC has...11!!!!!!
                              (OU) Title Years by Polling Organization 16 (Source - NCAA)

                              According to USC's website, USC was VOTED national champion 11 times. If that counts, then Oklahoma's title years (noted above since 1869) stand at 16.
                              If you're ever walking down the beach and you see a girl dressed in a bikini made out of seashells, and you pick her up and hold her to your ear, you can hear her scream.

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