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  • Canada's Prime Minister has weighed in on the NHL concussion debate:

    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/...bate-1.3511509

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    • Originally posted by tandfman View Post
      Apparently, the NFL has now demanded a full retraction of this story.

      https://sports.vice.com/en_us/highli...-tobacco-story
      And the Times has told the NFL to ES&D.

      http://deadspin.com/new-york-times-r...ium=socialflow

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      • Originally posted by einnod23 View Post
        No personal stake. Ask Jim Otto whether the argument is silly! I'm surprised that there is someone who thinks limbs are not important, at all. That is a right; that which I will disagree!
        The difference between limbs and the brain is that even back in the days when Jim Otto was playing, players knew that football could have really serious consequences for their limbs, but their risk-reward calculus led them to conclude that it was worth it. However, players of that era didn't know about the long-term consequences to the brain, which is why so many of the older players have said that they wouldn't have played if they knew then what they know now.

        However, we have now entered the age of informed consent with respect to brain and limb injury. Players in the future know what they're getting into.

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        • Dartmouth has figured out a solution to the problem.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plz3lsljf_E

          :-)

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          • http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/.../?ex_cid=538fb

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            • A Federal appeals court has approved a huge settlement in a lawsuit brought against the NFL by more than 5000 former players.

              http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/19/sp...n-lawsuit.html

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              • It looks large but likely it won't be enough.

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                • Today's news. The NFL allegedly improperly attempted to influence the government research on concussions.

                  http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/24/sp...udy-finds.html

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                  • The latest news:

                    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/sp...-football.html

                    Headline: N.F.L.-Backed Youth Program Says It Reduced Concussions. The Data Disagrees.

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                    • More news:

                      http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/02/sp...n-lawsuit.html

                      Headline: Pop Warner Is Facing a Class-Action Lawsuit Over Concussions

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                      • A study of football players aged 8-13 years found changes to the white matter of the brain correlated with the number of hits to the head they received.

                        http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/313590.php

                        With all the information out there these days about football and brain injury/degeneration, why are kids that young still playing contact football? Especially in that age range when massive size and strength disparities are commonplace, like a 180-lb 12 year old clobbering an 85-lb kid of the same age. Before high school they should stick to flag football.

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                        • Originally posted by 18.99s View Post
                          A study of football players aged 8-13 years found changes to the white matter of the brain correlated with the number of hits to the head they received.

                          http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/313590.php

                          With all the information out there these days about football and brain injury/degeneration, why are kids that young still playing contact football? Especially in that age range when massive size and strength disparities are commonplace, like a 180-lb 12 year old clobbering an 85-lb kid of the same age. Before high school they should stick to flag football.
                          As a father of a player who started playing tackle football when he was 8, I agree with you. However aren't most leagues weight controlled so that you don't have those kind of discrepencies? Maybe you're referring to middle school ball?

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                          • Originally posted by NotDutra5 View Post
                            As a father of a player who started playing tackle football when he was 8, I agree with you. However aren't most leagues weight controlled so that you don't have those kind of discrepencies? Maybe you're referring to middle school ball?
                            Youth leagues with maximum weight limits don't necessarily have minimum limits. So a league with a 160 lb max for 12 year olds could still have several under-100 pounders, simply because most 12 year olds weigh under 100 pounds. And as you mentioned, the middle school teams without weight limits.

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                            • Originally posted by 18.99s View Post
                              Youth leagues with maximum weight limits don't necessarily have minimum limits. So a league with a 160 lb max for 12 year olds could still have several under-100 pounders, simply because most 12 year olds weigh under 100 pounds. And as you mentioned, the middle school teams without weight limits.
                              The league near here has a crazy matrix which has a minimum and max both age dependent within a team. I don't think you can have a 160 lb kid going against an 85 pounder. Looks like it would be 130 max and 75 minimum.

                              It used to be an independent league with straight weight and age limits but I think has now moved to Pop Warner.

                              The interesting thing is that, if my son was now 8, I probably wouldn't let him play. I had to be talked into it when he first asked. He's still playing 13 years later at an FCS school.
                              Last edited by NotDutra5; 10-26-2016, 03:22 AM.

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                              • Unfortunately we can now add Lions' Pro Bowl receiver Gail Cogdill, perhaps best remembered for the 1962 Thanksgiving ambush of the Packers, to the list

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