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  • gh
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    Originally posted by tandfman
    The law should, and apparently does, recognize that when an athletes takes PED's in order to improve his/her performance, whether it's by raising hematocrit levels or otherwise, that athlete is actually stealing medals, prize money, and other benefits from other athletes. mump boy is right--these people are, in a very real sense, lying, fraudulent thieves.
    Should Maradona have gone to jail for stealing (and later so admitting) a World Cup chance from England? Spitball pitchers in the Hall of Fame?

    At what point should the law involve itself in the internal policing of a bunch of silly games?

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  • Pego
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    Originally posted by tandfman
    The law should, and apparently does, recognize that when an athletes takes PED's in order to improve his/her performance, whether it's by raising hematocrit levels or otherwise, that athlete is actually stealing medals, prize money, and other benefits from other athletes. mump boy is right--these people are, in a very real sense, lying, fraudulent thieves.
    Should someone that sleeps in pressurized tent be jailed? Should George Brett have been jailed for corking the bat instead of being simply called out? Argument ad absurdum - should an offensive lineman, who does not bath for a week and eats loads of onions and garlic before the game be jailed?

    I am not arguing that any of these things could not be considered illegal within the context of the game, but criminal action? I just saw the movie Goya's Ghosts. The principal character is jailed by the Inquisition for abhoring pork. A secret Jewish sympathizer, therefore an enemy of the faith, that sort of thing.

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  • tandfman
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    The law should, and apparently does, recognize that when an athletes takes PED's in order to improve his/her performance, whether it's by raising hematocrit levels or otherwise, that athlete is actually stealing medals, prize money, and other benefits from other athletes. mump boy is right--these people are, in a very real sense, lying, fraudulent thieves.

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  • Pego
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    Originally posted by mump boy
    Originally posted by Pego
    Originally posted by 26mi235
    The offense carries a maximum two-year jail sentence
    Two years in prison for increasing your hematocrit! The mind boggles.
    it's not for having increased hematocrit as you well know but for being a lying, fraudulant, thief
    Are you suggesting the law should penalize motives instead of effect?

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  • gh
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    The subject line is slightly misleading. Doping "penalties" as meted out by the alphabet-soup organizations aren't changing (and after the recent decision against WADA, one wonders how a 4-year ban would fare in court).

    This is a case where a country has decided to criminalize PED use. And some would say, so they should.

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  • mump boy
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    Originally posted by Pego
    Originally posted by 26mi235
    The offense carries a maximum two-year jail sentence
    Two years in prison for increasing your hematocrit! The mind boggles.
    it's not for having increased hematocrit as you well know but for being a lying, fraudulant, thief

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  • Pego
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    Originally posted by 26mi235
    The offense carries a maximum two-year jail sentence
    Two years in prison for increasing your hematocrit! The mind boggles.

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  • 26mi235
    started a topic Doping Penalties Increasing?

    Doping Penalties Increasing?

    I am pretty sure that this statement overstates the likely outcome, but it would be pretty harsh if enacted (see Front Page story):

    ATHENS, Greece (AP) — Olympic champion race walker Athanasia Tsoumeleka was charged Monday with using an illegal performance-enhancing drug.

    Court officials said prosecutor Costas Simitzoglou charged Tsoumeleka with breaking Greece's doping laws after she tested positive in January for CERA, an advanced version of the blood-booster EPO.

    The offense carries a maximum two-year jail sentence."The offense carries a maximum two-year jail sentence."
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