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  • NYT: Sosa Said to Test Positive in 2003

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/17/sport ... ml?_r=1&hp

  • #2
    next we'll find out that he can speak english too.

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    • #3
      No way. No frickin' way. I just don't believe it.

      Oh, wait.... you said Sosa?

      Never mind, then... :lol:

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      • #4
        Sun Rises in the East!

        Dog Bites Man!

        My Taxes are Too Stinking High!

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        • #5
          But he:
          testified under oath before Congress at a public hearing in 2005 that he had “never taken illegal performance-enhancing drugs.”
          There must be a mistake. :roll:

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          • #6
            Originally posted by gm
            No way. No frickin' way. I just don't believe it.

            Oh, wait.... you said Sosa?

            Never mind, then... :lol:
            I'm sorry but I just don't buy into these tests, nor the results, nor the manner in which they're leaked. The drug testing process is horrendous and lacks credibility: their results are not verifiable by independent outside labs, players aren't given splits, and it's obvious there is no real anonymity nor any verifiable integrity of handling and storage of these samples.

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            • #7
              I have a few people in mind--as list members-- who weren't sluggers per se, that would be much more interesting. Sosa was a name everyone assumed was a user.

              As for the lack of security with the test results, I don't condone it but it's hard to watch the players lie publicly. I think it's inevitable all 100 will be leaked somehow.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Friar
                I have a few people in mind--as list members-- who weren't sluggers per se, that would be much more interesting. Sosa was a name everyone assumed was a user.

                As for the lack of security with the test results, I don't condone it but it's hard to watch the players lie publicly. I think it's inevitable all 100 will be leaked somehow.
                Hmmmm...I'm saying the leaked test results don't prove anything as far as I'm concerned, and I'm NOT giving the testers any benefit of the doubt -they don't deserve it. The process simply does not have the appropriate check and balances in place to put much weight into the leaked results. The leaked results themselves are glaring examples of a fraudulent process that lacks integrity.

                :? I don't know why it's inevitable that all the name will be leaked -especially since the agreement calls for them not to be.

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                • #9
                  Yawn.

                  In general, a baseball cap and a bat in hand should be a dead giveaway.

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                  • #10
                    I haven't followed the situation that closely but it was my understanding that the MLBPA were in possession of the results and it was up to them to do with the incriminating tests what they wanted? Like destroying them.

                    They elected to keep the tests in an attempt to appeal. If they could have had a half-dozen or so voided, the testing requirement would have ended for MLB players. Unfortunately for them the Senate subpoenaed the names/results and it's now out of their hands.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Friar
                      I haven't followed the situation that closely but it was my understanding that the MLBPA were in possession of the results and it was up to them to do with the incriminating tests what they wanted? Like destroying them....
                      ...The first testing performed under our 2002 Joint Drug Agreement (JDA) with
                      Major League Baseball was "survey testing" done in 2003. Under the terms of the JDA
                      (voted on and ratified by the players) these tests were to be both confidential and
                      anonymous; no one was ever supposed to know who tested positive
                      ...


                      MLBPA Memo to House Oversight Committee

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                      • #12
                        I wanna see the whole list.

                        The Sosa news, isnt.
                        The fool has said...there is no God. Psa 14

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                        • #13
                          Everyone here in Chicago is in total SHOCK.

                          The Horror, the Horror!


                          ha, ha, ha,.....

                          Actually, the Tribune just had a poll Sunday, asking all of the Trib's Hall of Fame eligible writers to say how they would vote on Sosa.

                          Most said that Sosa hadn't tested positive and they would vote fro Sosa. The notable exception was Phil Hersh, who said no way.

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                          • #14
                            :?: If the initial testing was supposed to be anonymous and used solely to survey raw numbers of potential users, there simply should NOT be any list of linked names nor anyway to generate such a list from the start...

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                            • #15
                              Player's Union failed to destroy the positives list, which then fell into Fed's hands at some point as I recall.

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