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  • Here's why US News ranking of colleges is bunk

    Check out U. of Florida president's rankings of US colleges and related article that says that other colleges stuff their own ballot boxes.

    http://www.gainesville.com/assets/pdf/GS17003616.PDF

    http://www.gainesville.com/article/2009 ... chools-low

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    Re: Here's why US News ranking of colleges is bunk

    I skimmed through his ranking for the top two tier universistes and it seemed about right. Except he had U. of Florida along side Berkeley, Harvard and Stanford etc. Mmm, perhaps a little bit biased on that one :lol:

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    • #3
      Florida better than Northwestern, for example?

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      • #4
        Re: Here's why US News ranking of colleges is bunk

        Originally posted by Daisy
        I skimmed through his ranking for the top two tier universistes and it seemed about right. Except he had U. of Florida along side Berkeley, Harvard and Stanford etc. Mmm, perhaps a little bit biased on that one :lol:
        :lol: I would love to see the 'honest' school that rated its programs as adequate or marginal. :lol:

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        • #5
          Let's see, he rated my undergrad school, the University of Chicago, as strong and my grad school, the University of Florida, as distinguished.

          I humbly disagree.

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          • #6
            Here's the rankings before adding in the Final Factor

            1. Harvard University
            2. Princeton University
            3. Yale University
            4. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
            5. Stanford University
            6. California Institute of Technology
            7. University of Pennsylvania
            8. Columbia University
            9. Duke University
            10. University of Chicago
            11. Dartmouth College
            12. Northwestern University
            13. Washington University in St. Louis
            14. Cornell University
            15. Johns Hopkins University
            16. Brown University
            17. Rice University
            18. Emory University
            19. University of Notre Dame
            20. Vanderbilt University
            21. University of California--Berkeley
            22. Carnegie Mellon University
            23. Georgetown University
            24. University of Virginia
            25. University of California--Los Angeles

            After the Final Factor - overall sports program

            1. Stanford University
            2. University of Notre Dame
            3. University of California--Los Angeles

            :twisted:

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            • #7
              I assume those rankings are only for Universities and large colleges. There are some small colleges that are every bit as good for an undergraduate education as many of those on that list (e.g.,Swarthmore, Amherst, Pomona, Williams, etc.)

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              • #8
                These rankings, like all such, bear absolutely no relation to any objective reality in educational quality. Even worse are the annual Newsweek rankings of high schools which are based primarily on the sheer number of SAT or IB exams per capita for specific high schools. The high school rankings are a fabulous marketing scheme for the test makers but are based on the lunatic assumption that more testing equals better students.

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                • #9
                  Here's The Onion's explanation of how US News ranks colleges:

                  http://www.theonion.com/articles/how...olleges,33959/

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                  • #10
                    So the Princeton (!) Review asked 10,000 college applicatants what their Dream School would be if they could get in. The #1 picked school is also the one with the fewest applicants admitted and the one with the highest 'yield' (admitted students actually went there). Care to venture a wild guess what it was ;-) ?

                    http://www.slate.com/articles/techno...m_college.html

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                    • #11
                      see this thread from May: "Harvard The Stanford Of The East"

                      http://trackandfieldnews.com/discuss...rd-of-the-East

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                      • #12
                        Dartmouth and Georgetown are 3s while Florida is a 5 and Iowa is a 4?

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