Ice Age 3: Dawn of the Dinosaurs

[lonewolf]

Grandson, 8, worked me into his swimming, karate schedule and we finally saw Ice Age 3 this afternoon.
Maybe I am getting jaded but I was a little disappointed. While the cinematography is as brilliant as ever, the novelty had worn off for me. Talking to grandson after the movie, I concluded the underlying message/moral of these movies is beyond that age and the sight gags can only hold their interest, and mine, for so long.
Grandson, 4, was scared by the characters in the trailers and refused to go.
Even the antics of the saber tooth squirrel and the acorn seemed tired.

[Marlow]

While I agree with your assessment, my gs (6) was totally enthralled, to the point of standing in front of his seat throughout much of the movie, often jumping up and down (the theater was almost empty, or I would have kept him seated) and squealing in delight. Afterward he jabbered on and on about the exploits of the characters.

[Pego]

What I despise about those Disney Dinasaur and Ice Age movies is "inventing" animals that never existed, placing animals from different geological ages together. They have an opportunity to teach those kids something besides entertaining them. How does placing lemurs with the dinosaurs or giving a squirell saber teeth make it more entertaining :evil: ?

[gm]

What I despise about those Disney Dinasaur and Ice Age movies is "inventing" animals that never existed, placing animals from different geological ages together. They have an opportunity to teach those kids something besides entertaining them. How does placing lemurs with the dinosaurs or giving a squirell saber teeth make it more entertaining :evil: ?

It's a movie. If you expect reality in a cartoon, you have issues (see: Roadrunner vs. Wiley Coyote).

[Marlow]

What I despise about those Disney Dinasaur and Ice Age movies is "inventing" animals that never existed, placing animals from different geological ages together. They have an opportunity to teach those kids something besides entertaining them. How does placing lemurs with the dinosaurs or giving a squirell saber teeth make it more entertaining :evil: ?

It's a movie. If you expect reality in a cartoon, you have issues (see: Roadrunner vs. Wiley Coyote).

You're both right. As a cartoon, it can take liberties (suspending gravity, living through huge explosions, etc.). Usually those liberties are self-evidently 'not real', so there's little concern with the effect on children (except all the big brothers who round-house kick their little brothers in the head, because they see it in a cartoon or video-game, which DOES happen). But . . . in a movie like this, most kids assume the science IS real, and walk out of the theater really believing that these creatures (co-) existed.

[Halfmiler2]

Hollywood taking liberties with the facts is certainly not limited to cartoons. :wink:

[Pego]

What I despise about those Disney Dinasaur and Ice Age movies is "inventing" animals that never existed, placing animals from different geological ages together. They have an opportunity to teach those kids something besides entertaining them. How does placing lemurs with the dinosaurs or giving a squirell saber teeth make it more entertaining :evil: ?

It's a movie. If you expect reality in a cartoon, you have issues (see: Roadrunner vs. Wiley Coyote).

You're both right. As a cartoon, it can take liberties (suspending gravity, living through huge explosions, etc.). Usually those liberties are self-evidently 'not real', so there's little concern with the effect on children (except all the big brothers who round-house kick their little brothers in the head, because they see it in a cartoon or video-game, which DOES happen). But . . . in a movie like this, most kids assume the science IS real, and walk out of the theater really believing that these creatures (co-) existed.

That is precisely it. Any child knows that Wiley E. is make believe. They don't know that dinosaurs and lemurs never co-existed.

[Daisy]

They don't know that dinosaurs and lemurs never co-existed.

:shock: Pego, sometimes you come out with some ridiculous comments. You can't know if they co-existed or not. Or were you there?

[Pego]

They don't know that dinosaurs and lemurs never co-existed.

:shock: Pego, sometimes you come out with some ridiculous comments. You can't know if they co-existed or not. Or were you there?

Some around here may take your sarcasm as your actual position :evil: .

BTW, to complete my previous posts, this sort of movies just contribute to the dreadful state of scientific literacy among our population.

[gm]

I'm sure there are some laws in the pipeline to mandate truthiness in cartoons. It's a must.

Has anyone seen my talking duck?

[Marlow]

I'm sure there are some laws in the pipeline to mandate truthiness in cartoons. It's a must.
Has anyone seen my talking duck?

Another case in point is Oliver Stone's movies that reinvent history. LOTS of people come out of his movies thinking that what they saw is the 'truth', when, in actuality, Stone was just making crap up as he went along, putting it in the context of real events.

[lonewolf]

I did not concern myself with the chronological inaccuracy. We plowed that field on this forum a couple of weeks ago.
My granson is well versed in the history of dinosaurs and identified tyranasaurus, stegosaurus and brontosaurus as they appeared. He was especially critical of the inaccurate depiction of the raptors and dismissed "Rudy" as fictional.
He was also critical of descending from a frozen planet into a subterranean tropical environment and surfing on a river of molten lava. Maybe he has spent too much time with grandpa.

Marlow's comment about the nearly empty theatre prompts a wonder about the economics of the movie industry. This movie is showing every hour, or so, between 1100 and 2200 hours on one or more screens in a 24 screen multiplex. We attended a 1530 showing on Wednesday afternoon. Admittedely not prime movie time for the general public but I counted a "crowd" of twelve people, exacly half children. in a 400 seat theatre, suggesting ticket revenue of $180 -$200. I think I read this movie grossed $43 mill the first week. Apparently/obviously attendance is better other times and places.

[JRM]

BTW, to complete my previous posts, this sort of movies just contribute to the dreadful state of scientific literacy among our population.

Exactly. Why confuse the issue -- everyone knows that dinosaurs and ice ages are make-believe. How could they have happened in the 4000 years since the Earth was created?

[lonewolf]

BTW, to complete my previous posts, this sort of movies just contribute to the dreadful state of scientific literacy among our population.

Exactly. Why confuse the issue -- everyone knows that dinosaurs and ice ages are make-believe. How could they have happened in the 4000 years since the Earth was created?

Yeah, everyone knows it has been 6000 years. :wink:

[wineturtle]

BTW, to complete my previous posts, this sort of movies just contribute to the dreadful state of scientific literacy among our population.

Exactly. Why confuse the issue -- everyone knows that dinosaurs and ice ages are make-believe. How could they have happened in the 4000 years since the Earth was created?

Yeah, everyone knows it has been 6000 years. :wink:

Only 4000 to go
:roll: I submit as proof----->
Now it's been 10,000 years, Man has cried a billion tears, For what, he never knew. Now man's reign is through. But through eternal night, The twinkling of starlight. So very far away, Maybe it's only yesterday ...