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  • #46
    You edited your post to include "speaking as a straight man" after I quoted it and you know it.

    But thats okay.

    The bigger question may be why wasnt it already apparent? :P

    I dont watch naked men or cartoons.

    But you're the normal guy...right?
    The fool has said...there is no God. Psa 14

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    • #47
      Originally posted by TrackDaddy
      You edited your post to include "speaking as a straight man" after I quoted it and you know it.

      Wrong.

      No edits listed proves it.

      Unless something weird is going on here.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Brian
        Originally posted by TrackDaddy
        You edited your post to include "speaking as a straight man" after I quoted it and you know it.

        Wrong.

        No edits listed proves it.

        Unless something weird is going on here.
        No, you edited it.

        Its just that I hadnt hit the submit button before you did after your edit.

        Its all good.

        You explained that although you like to look at penises, you arent gay.

        Just curious I suppose.
        The fool has said...there is no God. Psa 14

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        • #49
          Originally posted by TrackDaddy
          Originally posted by Brian
          Originally posted by TrackDaddy
          You edited your post to include "speaking as a straight man" after I quoted it and you know it.

          Wrong.

          No edits listed proves it.

          Unless something weird is going on here.
          No, you edited it.

          Its just that I hadnt hit the submit button before you did after your edit.

          Its all good.

          You explained that although you like to look at penises, you arent gay.

          Just curious I suppose.

          There might be more to it--I just got thrown out of Netscape for some reason and had three freeze ups while trying to get back on two different servers. Could be the work system.


          As you well know, no one is saying anything about liking to look at penises.

          Just you. You keep bringing the subject back to looking at penises...


          So accordingly, you then have this obsessive urge to spin everything people write about seeing movies containing nudity into your personal world of latent fears and insecurities concerning your manhood. As you say, hmmm...

          And that's what you are doing over and over in this thread, so it must be really, really important to you. Does it somehow justify your obsessive focus on penises to include everyone around you in your line of thought?

          But that's okay. Just an observation.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by TrackDaddy
            I also asked why a movie about a guy gay playing with penises would interest a straight man.

            I didnt think the question to be unfair. :?
            It is a fair question, so I will give you a fair answer:

            A movie that shows a gay guy playing with penises could certainly interest a straight man if the movie was funny. I haven't seen Bruno yet, but I have watched Da Ali G Show on HBO (which is starring Sacha Cohen, the actor plays Bruno in the movie Bruno) as well as the movie Borat, and I found both the tv show as well as the movie Borat to have numerous hilarious scenes scattered within. So, assuming that it isn't just a gay man playing with penises for the ENTIRE movie, and that most of the movie involves things other than men playing with penises, I would think it would certainly possible for there to be numerous funny scenes scattered throughout the movie that were just plain funny, even for a straight person. THAT is why Bruno could be of interest to straight men. I realize that there are some heterosexual males who cannot help but feel angry, upset, or scared when they see a penis, but you need to realize that there ALSO a lot of heterosexual males who, while not at all turned on by one, will not feel upset or angry or scared or anything negative just because there's a penis on a tv screen or in front of them in the locker room showers or whatever. And for people who are not easily offended by this, yet also not turned on by it (thus heterosexual, not homosexual), if there are other parts of the movie that are funny, then I can see why some of them would have no problem watching the movie, and be interested in going out to watch it.

            Does this answer your question?

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            • #51
              Furthermore, TrackDaddy, I would like to add one more thing to this:

              You keep saying "I just don't understand why a straight person would like to look at penises."

              However, the problem with this statement is the following:

              You are implying that the straight men who were watching the movie Bruno enjoyed looking at penises

              This, obviously, does NOT have to be the case. Let me explain:

              Let's say that the movie is 2 hours long, and there is a 3 minute segment where they are showing a penis.

              And let's say the straight men in the audience DON'T like to look at penises. Is there anything they can possibly do now? I mean, gosh, there's a PENIS on the SCREEN!!! Whatever shall they do!?!???? Oh wait, I know, maybe, if the mere sight of a penis truly disgusts them and makes them feel awful, they can simply NOT LOOK AT IT DUUHHHHHHHH! Just look at your feet, or close your eyes, or turn away. How hard is that concept. Then, you can watch the other 99% of the movie, which maybe IS funny or enjoyable to watch, and problem solved. I bet you there were TOOOOONS of straight men that watched Bruno and decided to look away when the penis was shown on the screen, and were still able to enjoy the movie, despite turning away during the parts where a penis was being shown.

              So you see, this explains how it is possible even for someone who is truly disgusted by the sight of a penis to enjoy watching the movie Bruno even though they DO NOT ENJOY looking at penises. Get it?

              And this doesn't even mention the fact that, as mind-boggling as this might sound to you, there are actually many completely heterosexual men who do not feel disgusted, or upset, or nauseous, or whatever at the sight of a penis. Does the sight of a penis make them feel turned on, or aroused? No, they're straight. But does it make them feel nausious and disgusted? No. But how could this possibly be? I'll tell you how: Think about how you feel when you see a chair. Do you feel aroused, or turned on by the mere sight of a chair sitting in front of you? No, because you aren't attracted to chairs. You aren't a chairophile. It doesn't turn you on. It's just there. No big deal. That's how you feel about it. You feel like "So what... it's a fucking chair..." Right? But, do you feel DISGUSTED by the sight of the chair? Does the chair make you feel nausious and feel terrible and unhappy? No (unless it was a chair that was designed in the 70's :wink: :wink: :wink: :lol: ), it's just a chair, it doesn't turn you on at all, but it also doesn't disgust you or make you feel nausious, it's just a chair, who cares, whatever. Right? Okay, well THAT is how a lot of straight men are about seeing a penis. They aren't turned on by it at all, but at the same time, it doesn't make them feel nausious or disgusted or unhappy, it's just a dick, and it just plain doesn't do anything for them good OR bad, it's just like a chair or a garage or a tree or whatever the hell, it's just one of the many things that exists on earth that they neither find to be disgusting nor to be sexually arousing to them, but rather, NEITHER.

              When I was on my high school swim team, there were naked guys standing around in the locker room when we changed for practice. Did it turn me on? No... I'm not gay. Did it make me puke? No... the sight of a human penis doesn't make me feel nausious or disgusted or ANYTHING for that matter. It doesn't evoke ANY emotions for me... it's just a dick, who cares...

              When I was in Italy, and I went to see the statue of David, and there was his penis right in front of me, completely bared for all the world to see, did I feel sexually aroused by it? No... I'm not gay. Did I feel disgusted at the sight of it, and struggle not to puke? No, I didn't fee any emotion from it. In fact, my mind was focused on how skillfully crafted the sculpture was. That there were no flaws in the sculpting to be seen anywhere on it, even though it stood 16 feet tall. It was a magnificently crafted piece of art, and I enjoyed being able to see such a great feat of sculpture craftsmanship with my own eyes. So that means I like to look at dicks right? No... you just don't get it do you?


              Sigh...

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              • #52
                A brillant post Atheist! I think you said it all. Bravo!
                phsstt!

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Brian
                  Originally posted by TrackDaddy
                  Originally posted by Brian
                  Originally posted by TrackDaddy
                  You edited your post to include "speaking as a straight man" after I quoted it and you know it.

                  Wrong.

                  No edits listed proves it.

                  Unless something weird is going on here.
                  No, you edited it.

                  Its just that I hadnt hit the submit button before you did after your edit.

                  Its all good.

                  You explained that although you like to look at penises, you arent gay.

                  Just curious I suppose.

                  There might be more to it--I just got thrown out of Netscape for some reason and had three freeze ups while trying to get back on two different servers. Could be the work system.


                  As you well know, no one is saying anything about liking to look at penises.

                  Just you. You keep bringing the subject back to looking at penises...


                  So accordingly, you then have this obsessive urge to spin everything people write about seeing movies containing nudity into your personal world of latent fears and insecurities concerning your manhood. As you say, hmmm...

                  And that's what you are doing over and over in this thread, so it must be really, really important to you. Does it somehow justifyZ your obsessive focus on penises to include everyone around you in your line of thought?

                  But that's okay. Just an observation.
                  I hit a nerve? :lol:

                  I guess you missed all the posts in this thread complaining about the penis overload in the movie.

                  You went to see it and have no idea what they were complaining about, eh? LOL
                  The fool has said...there is no God. Psa 14

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by The Atheist
                    Originally posted by TrackDaddy
                    I also asked why a movie about a guy gay playing with penises would interest a straight man.

                    I didnt think the question to be unfair. :?
                    It is a fair question, so I will give you a fair answer:

                    A movie that shows a gay guy playing with penises could certainly interest a straight man if the movie was funny. I haven't seen Bruno yet, but I have watched Da Ali G Show on HBO (which is starring Sacha Cohen, the actor plays Bruno in the movie Bruno) as well as the movie Borat, and I found both the tv show as well as the movie Borat to have numerous hilarious scenes scattered within. So, assuming that it isn't just a gay man playing with penises for the ENTIRE movie, and that most of the movie involves things other than men playing with penises, I would think it would certainly possible for there to be numerous funny scenes scattered throughout the movie that were just plain funny, even for a straight person. THAT is why Bruno could be of interest to straight men. I realize that there are some heterosexual males who cannot help but feel angry, upset, or scared when they see a penis, but you need to realize that there ALSO a lot of heterosexual males who, while not at all turned on by one, will not feel upset or angry or scared or anything negative just because there's a penis on a tv screen or in front of them in the locker room showers or whatever. And for people who are not easily offended by this, yet also not turned on by it (thus heterosexual, not homosexual), if there are other parts of the movie that are funny, then I can see why some of them would have no problem watching the movie, and be interested in going out to watch it.

                    Does this answer your question?
                    A bit of a rationalizing ramble but I suppose you offered some insight.

                    How did you know the answer?

                    LOL
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by The Atheist
                      Furthermore, TrackDaddy, I would like to add one more thing to this:

                      You keep saying "I just don't understand why a straight person would like to look at penises."

                      However, the problem with this statement is the following:

                      You are implying that the straight men who were watching the movie Bruno enjoyed looking at penises

                      This, obviously, does NOT have to be the case. Let me explain:

                      Let's say that the movie is 2 hours long, and there is a 3 minute segment where they are showing a penis.

                      And let's say the straight men in the audience DON'T like to look at penises. Is there anything they can possibly do now? I mean, gosh, there's a PENIS on the SCREEN!!! Whatever shall they do!?!???? Oh wait, I know, maybe, if the mere sight of a penis truly disgusts them and makes them feel awful, they can simply NOT LOOK AT IT DUUHHHHHHHH! Just look at your feet, or close your eyes, or turn away. How hard is that concept. Then, you can watch the other 99% of the movie, which maybe IS funny or enjoyable to watch, and problem solved. I bet you there were TOOOOONS of straight men that watched Bruno and decided to look away when the penis was shown on the screen, and were still able to enjoy the movie, despite turning away during the parts where a penis was being shown.

                      So you see, this explains how it is possible even for someone who is truly disgusted by the sight of a penis to enjoy watching the movie Bruno even though they DO NOT ENJOY looking at penises. Get it?

                      And this doesn't even mention the fact that, as mind-boggling as this might sound to you, there are actually many completely heterosexual men who do not feel disgusted, or upset, or nauseous, or whatever at the sight of a penis. Does the sight of a penis make them feel turned on, or aroused? No, they're straight. But does it make them feel nausious and disgusted? No. But how could this possibly be? I'll tell you how: Think about how you feel when you see a chair. Do you feel aroused, or turned on by the mere sight of a chair sitting in front of you? No, because you aren't attracted to chairs. You aren't a chairophile. It doesn't turn you on. It's just there. No big deal. That's how you feel about it. You feel like "So what... it's a fucking chair..." Right? But, do you feel DISGUSTED by the sight of the chair? Does the chair make you feel nausious and feel terrible and unhappy? No (unless it was a chair that was designed in the 70's :wink: :wink: :wink: :lol: ), it's just a chair, it doesn't turn you on at all, but it also doesn't disgust you or make you feel nausious, it's just a chair, who cares, whatever. Right? Okay, well THAT is how a lot of straight men are about seeing a penis. They aren't turned on by it at all, but at the same time, it doesn't make them feel nausious or disgusted or unhappy, it's just a dick, and it just plain doesn't do anything for them good OR bad, it's just like a chair or a garage or a tree or whatever the hell, it's just one of the many things that exists on earth that they neither find to be disgusting nor to be sexually arousing to them, but rather, NEITHER.

                      When I was on my high school swim team, there were naked guys standing around in the locker room when we changed for practice. Did it turn me on? No... I'm not gay. Did it make me puke? No... the sight of a human penis doesn't make me feel nausious or disgusted or ANYTHING for that matter. It doesn't evoke ANY emotions for me... it's just a dick, who cares...

                      When I was in Italy, and I went to see the statue of David, and there was his penis right in front of me, completely bared for all the world to see, did I feel sexually aroused by it? No... I'm not gay. Did I feel disgusted at the sight of it, and struggle not to puke? No, I didn't fee any emotion from it. In fact, my mind was focused on how skillfully crafted the sculpture was. That there were no flaws in the sculpting to be seen anywhere on it, even though it stood 16 feet tall. It was a magnificently crafted piece of art, and I enjoyed being able to see such a great feat of sculpture craftsmanship with my own eyes. So that means I like to look at dicks right? No... you just don't get it do you?


                      Sigh...
                      You're pretty passionate about defending going to a movie about a gay dude playing with penises.

                      See apparently it isn't about seeing an occasional glimpse ...but instead its overload. Admittedly a glimpse is overload for me...lol

                      Read the early post in the thread and notice that the person who started the thread doesn't recommend the movie for the same reason you'd enjoy it.

                      You said that if a guy didn't know there were penises in the movie before they went...well...now that you know...

                      Have you bought a ticket?
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by SQUACKEE
                        A brillant post Atheist! I think you said it all. Bravo!
                        Brilliant, huh? :roll:

                        Wearing pom poms and a skirt in this thread could be miscontrued.

                        Or not. :wink:
                        The fool has said...there is no God. Psa 14

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by TrackDaddy
                          Originally posted by SQUACKEE
                          A brillant post Atheist! I think you said it all. Bravo!
                          Brilliant, huh? :roll:

                          Wearing pom poms and a skirt in this thread could be miscontrued.

                          Or not. :wink:
                          I'm wearing them right now! I see your thinking about them and visualizing also.

                          Just kidding, i am on a mission to rid the world of penis......except for mine! Bru hahahahahahah.
                          phsstt!

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by TrackDaddy
                            Originally posted by The Atheist
                            Furthermore, TrackDaddy, I would like to add one more thing to this:

                            You keep saying "I just don't understand why a straight person would like to look at penises."

                            However, the problem with this statement is the following:

                            You are implying that the straight men who were watching the movie Bruno enjoyed looking at penises

                            This, obviously, does NOT have to be the case. Let me explain:

                            Let's say that the movie is 2 hours long, and there is a 3 minute segment where they are showing a penis.

                            And let's say the straight men in the audience DON'T like to look at penises. Is there anything they can possibly do now? I mean, gosh, there's a PENIS on the SCREEN!!! Whatever shall they do!?!???? Oh wait, I know, maybe, if the mere sight of a penis truly disgusts them and makes them feel awful, they can simply NOT LOOK AT IT DUUHHHHHHHH! Just look at your feet, or close your eyes, or turn away. How hard is that concept. Then, you can watch the other 99% of the movie, which maybe IS funny or enjoyable to watch, and problem solved. I bet you there were TOOOOONS of straight men that watched Bruno and decided to look away when the penis was shown on the screen, and were still able to enjoy the movie, despite turning away during the parts where a penis was being shown.

                            So you see, this explains how it is possible even for someone who is truly disgusted by the sight of a penis to enjoy watching the movie Bruno even though they DO NOT ENJOY looking at penises. Get it?

                            And this doesn't even mention the fact that, as mind-boggling as this might sound to you, there are actually many completely heterosexual men who do not feel disgusted, or upset, or nauseous, or whatever at the sight of a penis. Does the sight of a penis make them feel turned on, or aroused? No, they're straight. But does it make them feel nausious and disgusted? No. But how could this possibly be? I'll tell you how: Think about how you feel when you see a chair. Do you feel aroused, or turned on by the mere sight of a chair sitting in front of you? No, because you aren't attracted to chairs. You aren't a chairophile. It doesn't turn you on. It's just there. No big deal. That's how you feel about it. You feel like "So what... it's a fucking chair..." Right? But, do you feel DISGUSTED by the sight of the chair? Does the chair make you feel nausious and feel terrible and unhappy? No (unless it was a chair that was designed in the 70's :wink: :wink: :wink: :lol: ), it's just a chair, it doesn't turn you on at all, but it also doesn't disgust you or make you feel nausious, it's just a chair, who cares, whatever. Right? Okay, well THAT is how a lot of straight men are about seeing a penis. They aren't turned on by it at all, but at the same time, it doesn't make them feel nausious or disgusted or unhappy, it's just a dick, and it just plain doesn't do anything for them good OR bad, it's just like a chair or a garage or a tree or whatever the hell, it's just one of the many things that exists on earth that they neither find to be disgusting nor to be sexually arousing to them, but rather, NEITHER.

                            When I was on my high school swim team, there were naked guys standing around in the locker room when we changed for practice. Did it turn me on? No... I'm not gay. Did it make me puke? No... the sight of a human penis doesn't make me feel nausious or disgusted or ANYTHING for that matter. It doesn't evoke ANY emotions for me... it's just a dick, who cares...

                            When I was in Italy, and I went to see the statue of David, and there was his penis right in front of me, completely bared for all the world to see, did I feel sexually aroused by it? No... I'm not gay. Did I feel disgusted at the sight of it, and struggle not to puke? No, I didn't fee any emotion from it. In fact, my mind was focused on how skillfully crafted the sculpture was. That there were no flaws in the sculpting to be seen anywhere on it, even though it stood 16 feet tall. It was a magnificently crafted piece of art, and I enjoyed being able to see such a great feat of sculpture craftsmanship with my own eyes. So that means I like to look at dicks right? No... you just don't get it do you?


                            Sigh...
                            You're pretty passionate about defending going to a movie about a gay dude playing with penises.

                            TrackDaddy, you keep saying that the movie is "about a gay dude playing with penises" but I strongly doubt that's what the movie is "about." Sure, maybe there is one scene where someone plays with a penis, but, I strongly doubt this makes up the whole entire movie, rather, much more likely it is just one small portion of the movie, with the vast majority of the film not having anything to do with that, or showing that. It's sort of like, if you said the movie Forrest Gump was "about a dude showing his bare ass to the audience." Was there a scene in the movie Forrest bared his buttocks? Yes. Was that what the movie was about? No, and if you told anyone who watched the movie Forrest Gump that that is what the movie was about, they would laugh in your face and call you a moron.

                            See apparently it isn't about seeing an occasional glimpse ...but instead its overload. Admittedly a glimpse is overload for me...lol

                            I haven't seen the movie, so I can't comment on how long the penis is showed for, but I STRONGLY DOUBT it is for more than a few minutes at the most. If it was the whole movie, then what were all those scenes they kept showing in the previews for the movie? They showed quite a few different scenes from the movie in the movie trailers that I saw and none of them had anything to do with penises being shown, so at the very least, I can be pretty damned sure that the whole movie isn't entirely just "about a guy playing with a penis" as you keep implying.

                            Read the early post in the thread and notice that the person who started the thread doesn't recommend the movie for the same reason you'd enjoy it.

                            I'm not sure what "for the same reason you'd enjoy it" means. I have no idea if I would enjoy the movie. I enjoyed his previous movie, Borat, because it had many hilarious scenes scattered throughout the movie. I haven't seen this movie, so I have no idea if it has as many hilarious scenes as Borat did. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. If you're implying that the reason I would enjoy the movie Bruno is that it shows a penis, you are quite mistaken. I don't enjoy watching penises. If there's a penis in the movie, it isn't going to make me barf or feel sick or anything, it's not a big deal to me, I would just ignore it and enjoy the REST of the movie where there aren't penises being shown, where funny stuff is happening that I enjoy laughing at.

                            You said that if a guy didn't know there were penises in the movie before they went...well...now that you know...

                            I never said anything about "if a guy didn't know there were penises in the movie before they went" I think someone else must have said that and you confused it as me saying that, cuz I definitely didn't say that anywhere in this thread. But anyway, as for the question of whether I'd still be willing to watch it, even though I knew now that there is a penis shown in the movie, my answer is, as long as the penis scene only makes up a small portion of the movie, and isn't like an hour of that or anything ridiculous, then sure if I thought the movie was going to have a bunch of funny scenes, I'd be willing to watch it. I would enjoy laughing during the funny scenes where (where there aren't any penises being shown) and then in the small portion of the movie that has a penis being shown, whatever I wouldn't enjoy that part, but the vast majority of all the movies I've ever seen in my whole life have had a few minutes at some point in the movie that I didn't enjoy. It's no biggie, as long as the rest of the movie was enjoyable it would be worth watching for me, sure.

                            Have you bought a ticket?

                            No I haven't seen The Hurt Locker, Public Enemies, or The Hangover yet, and all 3 of those movies are movies I badly want to see. I want to see those movies before they are no longer in theaters, and if after I've seen all of those Bruno is still in theaters, then I'll watch it, but most likely I won't see Bruno till it's on HBO or something.

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                            • #59
                              Wow, talk about much ado about nothing! To paraphrase Groucho, sometimes a penis is just a penis. Pretty much all the men on the planet have one. It's certainly not cause for concern. Like Squackee, I'm not on the lookout to go see a movie with some in it, but I am also not going to discount the comedic possibilities of a film that does show one. But it still has to be funny! Penises, of themselves, are not all that funny (unless you're Cohen, and then apparently they're hysterical, all the time!), but I'm sure they CAN be cause for humor, just like most everything else on the planet. In short, there's no reason to reject a film just cuz they show some. :roll:

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                              • #60
                                (Self proclaimed) Atheist...

                                Below is how I deduced certain things about the movie.

                                Like its an extremely gay movie with penis overload.

                                If you'd read these posts before you typed, you could've saved yourself some key strokes in your effort to only blame me for my perspective.

                                From what I read I was lead to ask why a straight guy would want to see it. That's understandable since apparently some people walked out.

                                You typed on and on about the "rest of the movie" which you saw in the trailers. :roll:

                                But apparently gay humor featuring a not so suprising associated obsession with penises is part of the focus.

                                It's my opinion that gay people are pushing their agenda as they have more and more influence over media, in particular Hollywood and motion pictures.

                                Personally I'm not on board with the agenda nor will I ever be.

                                Originally posted by ross sez
                                Saw it. It was pretty funny... but did I like it? NO. It was a terrible movie, and I'm not a homophobe in any way... but it was just too gay of a movie for me. It was quite disturbing and the shock value of 90% of the movie was wayyy too over the top to like it.
                                Wayyy too much penis in the movie.
                                Originally posted by SQUACKEE
                                If you like looking at giant penis's and firehoses shooting up guys ass's then this is your movie.

                                My son went, saw people walk out after 30 seconds. I think i'll miss this one.
                                Originally posted by SQUACKEE

                                I'm so old fashion i still believe the old saying and request....PRIVATES!
                                Borat shows his Penis and ambushes unsuspecting people and he's no.1 at the box office, kinda sad to this old fart.

                                Hey, how can we film actual farts? Wouldnt that be great? I smell a hit, no Epic!
                                Originally posted by mojo
                                Originally posted by SQUACKEE

                                I only speak for myself of course but i think women's breasts are beautiful, veiny, wrinkled organs not so much.

                                You speak for me too...which is very :shock: :?

                                I like what penises can do but I don't really wanna look at them. :?
                                Originally posted by EZSum
                                I must have watched half the movie through my fingers cringing with embarassment but I laughed like a drain and it did a good job of pointing out how absurdly homophobic some people are.

                                The talking penis scene isn't nearly as problematic for me as the bit where he's supposed to be performing sex acts on the Milli Vanilli guy's ghost. :shock:
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