I am looking for MAJOR track meets this summer USA based

[Gleason]

YOU! Shakespere wrote "the fault dear Brutus lies not in the stars, but in ourselves." Go for it.

[RHBfactor]

Have you started putting together your dream team of meet organizers, RHB? The clock is ticking! Get to steppin'! These meets don't put themselves on ya know!

I agree. Its time for RHB to "fish or cut bait." Stop writing and start promoting. Raise some money because "money talks and B.S. walks."

Ok. Time for USA track and field to step up....who is my marketing genius to contact?

[Gleason]

Have you started putting together your dream team of meet organizers, RHB? The clock is ticking! Get to steppin'! These meets don't put themselves on ya know!

I agree. Its time for RHB to "fish or cut bait." Stop writing and start promoting. Raise some money because "money talks and B.S. walks."

[RHBfactor]

Serious Problem In Marketing of Track and Field

We have a serious problem in USA Track and Field. A huge and bad moldy problem. It starts boys with the NCAA and we don't have one full ride per each event in track and field. Thus, more and more kids take the jump to football at 105 man roster and over I think 90 rides.

I don't buy the weather premise at all for staging post NCAA world class meets in the most dominating, safe, classy, media driven countries in the world with major companies abounding ...its called the USA.

And no one is offering solutions. The first solution is to face up the NCAA and we need more rides per event....sort of starting at the grassroot level. Next, year round, our beloved USA Track heads....In Indy?????? Imagine that ....the number two sport in the world and we base our headquarters in OSH KOSH BEEEGOSH country instead of LA or NY or Atlanta or Dallas...MAJOR MEDIA MARKETS.

Next, we might want to consider riding off the back of HS football in the major markets such as Texas or CIF Southern Section and shifting some of our meets to prior to a major HS football game in a stadium that houses track. IF Mater Dei can draw 20,000 fora big game...we have a day meet at world class and it is a double header. These are wild thoughts, but someone has to wake Hazel up in the kitchen and tell Hazel...it aint working.

Is Modesto still around?
Pepsi?
Sunkist?
Jack In the Box?
Ali?

Where did all the lovely meets go?

[RHBfactor]

Re: I am looking for MAJOR track meets this summer USA based

It is Summer and I am looking to take a tour of the major big meets in the USA in major DMA markets. I mean the big meets, 15,000 or more paying fans of track and field. ......
NYC - late july major meet
....

And jumping in our wayback machine, it's July 20, 1991. IAAF Grand Prix meet in New York City, with New York Road Runners behind the meet and offering discount tickets to their thousands of members.

100: Lewis vs. Marsh
200: Danny Everett
400: Andrew Valmon, Steve Lewis
800: Johnny Gray, George Kersh
Mile: Jim Spivey Marcus O'Sullivan
Steeple Brian Diemer
110H: Tny Dees, Greg Foster, Renaldo Nehemiah, Jack Pierce
400H: Danny Harris, Nat Page, Andre Phillips
HJ: Charles Austin, Patrick Sjöberg
PV: Kory Tarpenning, Joe Dial, Earl Bell
LJ: Llewellyn Starks, Joe Greene.

100: Gwen Torrence, Gail Devers, Carlette Guidry
400: Rochelle Stevens, Jearl Miles, Chandra Cheeseborough
800: Maria Muutola, May Slaney
3000: PatiSue Plumer, Ceci St. Geme, Lynn Jennings
100H: Kim McKenzie, Michelle freeman
400H: Sandra Farmer-Patrick, Kim Batten, Janeene Vickers
HJ: Angie Bradburn, Jan Wohlschlag.

Announced attendance 8000, but in reality far less. Track in NYC in the summer is a no-sell. Whcih is why the NYRRC quickly got out of the business.

Okay....let's go LA, Oregon - Eugene, San Diego, San Fran, OR any city in the USA that mimics the climates in Europe....great post and shows...T and F is not the second most popular sport in the number one country in the world and that is the USA. I mean look at the lineup you posted HUGE talent. Then you have to ask, what was the media campaign for the meet, the grassroot? Now back then there was little online...but look at the horrendous marketing for the Homed Depot meet a few years ago with the worthless picture ad in the LA times sports of Jeremey Warner...NO ONE IN THE USA REALLY KNOWS WHHO HE IS...OTHER THAN A VERY FINE NICHE....Bad marketing, no budgets, no sponsors and we are based in INDY? INDY? Why INDY? Gee, let's have a summer meet in the backyard of our headquarters....NIGHT MEET.

Viareggio is no Newport Beach in the summer yet draws thousands...all over Italy the heat is a killer and even in London in the Summer at Crystal Palace you can bake.

I am not buying the weather premise.

[gh]

Re: I am looking for MAJOR track meets this summer USA based

It is Summer and I am looking to take a tour of the major big meets in the USA in major DMA markets. I mean the big meets, 15,000 or more paying fans of track and field. ......
NYC - late july major meet
....

And jumping in our wayback machine, it's July 20, 1991. IAAF Grand Prix meet in New York City, with New York Road Runners behind the meet and offering discount tickets to their thousands of members.

100: Lewis vs. Marsh
200: Danny Everett
400: Andrew Valmon, Steve Lewis
800: Johnny Gray, George Kersh
Mile: Jim Spivey Marcus O'Sullivan
Steeple Brian Diemer
110H: Tny Dees, Greg Foster, Renaldo Nehemiah, Jack Pierce
400H: Danny Harris, Nat Page, Andre Phillips
HJ: Charles Austin, Patrick Sjöberg
PV: Kory Tarpenning, Joe Dial, Earl Bell
LJ: Llewellyn Starks, Joe Greene.

100: Gwen Torrence, Gail Devers, Carlette Guidry
400: Rochelle Stevens, Jearl Miles, Chandra Cheeseborough
800: Maria Muutola, May Slaney
3000: PatiSue Plumer, Ceci St. Geme, Lynn Jennings
100H: Kim McKenzie, Michelle freeman
400H: Sandra Farmer-Patrick, Kim Batten, Janeene Vickers
HJ: Angie Bradburn, Jan Wohlschlag.

Announced attendance 8000, but in reality far less. Track in NYC in the summer is a no-sell. Whcih is why the NYRRC quickly got out of the business.

[dakota]

Re: I am looking for MAJOR track meets this summer USA based

It is Summer and I am looking to take a tour of the major big meets in the USA in major DMA markets. I mean the big meets, 15,000 or more paying fans of track and field. Track...or so they say on the major track website is the number two most "Popular" sport in the world. Well that aint true because we as a nation are the most prosperous media market in the world with major major players such as Adidas and Nike plus hundreds of products to endorse. I certainly don't see Jeremy Warner? Is that how you spell it? On billboards. So....

Here is my request for a Good Sam Club meet circuit for RHB to go on.

LA late July - major meet
Dallas - late july major meet
NYC - late july major meet
Atlanta - early August - major meet
Washington DC/Baltimore - major meet August
San Fransisco, major meet - August

The qualifying standard is 10,000 fans to be major. Sort of a standard like when Mater Dei faces Long Beach Poly in HS football.

My thanks for all of your help on planning my trip to the greatness of track and field in the USA during the prime months of outdoor competing.

Are you Chuck Ramkissoon?

[RHBfactor]

RHB, you have a great plan for watching track but you have the wrong continent. Everything you want is in a place called Europe, be happy it exists at all.

Hmmmm....so it is not the number two popular sport in the world? Be happy europe exists? Why, is there a reason it might not exist? Why the number one sports country in the world cannot have major Meets...aka USA has to be a disease of leadership at the marketing level in...wait INDY? So, all the kids that run track in the USA have no meets to watch? Go to? Recreate? Get excited? I think RHB has made his point.

[SQUACKEE]

RHB, you have a great plan for watching track but you have the wrong continent. Everything you want is in a place called Europe, be happy it exists at all.

[Paul Henry]

Re: I am looking for MAJOR track meets this summer USA based

It is Summer and I am looking to take a tour of the major big meets in the USA in major DMA markets. I mean the big meets, 15,000 or more paying fans of track and field. Track...or so they say on the major track website is the number two most "Popular" sport in the world. Well that aint true because we as a nation are the most prosperous media market in the world with major major players such as Adidas and Nike plus hundreds of products to endorse. I certainly don't see Jeremy Warner? Is that how you spell it? On billboards. So....

Here is my request for a Good Sam Club meet circuit for RHB to go on.

LA late July - major meet
Dallas - late july major meet
NYC - late july major meet
Atlanta - early August - major meet
Washington DC/Baltimore - major meet August
San Fransisco, major meet - August

The qualifying standard is 10,000 fans to be major. Sort of a standard like when Mater Dei faces Long Beach Poly in HS football.

My thanks for all of your help on planning my trip to the greatness of track and field in the USA during the prime months of outdoor competing.

I think you could be a 'Joe the plumber" for the NACAC's political bid to have a greater representation with regards to the events under the elite track events umbrella.

[nbonaddio]

Re: WEll it is the world's number two sport

tl;dr

How is Trevor doing? Bucko? Tell us about your mile times back in the 1970s!

[RHBfactor]

WEll it is the world's number two sport

Have you started putting together your dream team of meet organizers, RHB? The clock is ticking! Get to steppin'! These meets don't put themselves on ya know!

Well being the world's number two sport and being the strongest marketing nation in the world, it's a no brainer for Sponsors...I mean who would not want to sponsor the bringing in of athletes from around the world to a rousing crowd of ??????????????? at CAL? At Drake? At Houston? At Austin? ....I just bet that my A list of sponsors would gladly step up knowing that NO ONE WILL SHOW as far as fans AND other than Track and Field news...which is not a Daily...NO MEDIA WILL COVER THE EVENTS....but here are my majors...

Under Armour
Nike
Rivals.com
Asics
ICEE Corporation
Southland - 7-11
Books-A-Million
TNT.fireworks.com
FOX Television
WAL MART

There you go. Now, so the sponsors know the power of the number two popular sport in the world - we need from all of us good fans here, estmated crowd attendance

oops..I had to edit....let me add www.andersonnews.com

You see the Anderson family owns the biggest network of magazine and supplies to all the big box stores. Terry Anderson one of the brothers owns TNT fireworks....Anderson boys put out special sports pubs all the time...but the question is going to remain...the number two popular sport in the world...what is my fan base say at Drake Stadium or Tempe for a night meet...Summer IN Da City Tour...USA? Give to me estimated attendance at Drake Stadium UCLA that in 1978 had 18,000 for the USC dual.

Where are we now boys? And who is marketing the number two sport in the world out of is it INDY? Is that where we base USA track...INDY? USA track should be based in LA or NY...the two top media markets in the world. INDY? I could be wrong and correct me if I am...but we base it in INDY? Where is MLB based and the NFL?????????

[gm]

Have you started putting together your dream team of meet organizers, RHB? The clock is ticking! Get to steppin'! These meets don't put themselves on ya know!

[RHBfactor]

Why?

Okay now that the point for RHB remains proved, that RHB and his wife Sally Mae are not going to find any meeets with 10,000 or more fans in the USA during the great summer months in the USA - where more marketing dollars are spent by advertisers than ever - readying for FALL.

Okay. My question is Why? I cannot buy the FALSE premise that weather is a factor east of Tombstone. WAIT...EVERY MAJOR COLLEGE FOOTBALL PROGRAM IS NOW READYING FOR FALL CAMP WHICH STARTS LATE JULY EARLY AUGUST. So we have boys in full pads working out...can we not have a track meet with men and women running in tights? Wait...what about a great night meet in Tempe?

Who is minding the store at USA track and field in organizing a major 12 meets summer circuit post NCAA in the USA?

[RHBfactor]

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