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If you're ever walking down the beach and you see a girl dressed in a bikini made out of seashells, and you pick her up and hold her to your ear, you can hear her scream. -
What a discovery! The sick and morbidly obese (sick, really) have a greater chance to be killed by flu than the healthy folk. WOW!"A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
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Aside from the obese aspect, is this "swine flu" simmering in the background, waiting to be unleashed in the next flu season? It seems to have gone away from major media headlines, but also seems to still be a potential problem, perhaps of significant dimensions.....Doctors ?Comment
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It is hardly simmering in the background in Britain. Pretty close to mass hysteria, it seems, reading the news reports.Comment
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We ain't remotely out of the woods. You should def. read this one:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 603D03.DTL
<<...In a disturbing new projection, health officials say up to 40 percent of Americans could get swine flu this year and next and several hundred thousand could die without a successful vaccine campaign and other measures....>>Comment
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Yes I've been reading or hearing some similar stuff...I think more than a few people may have shrugged this one off a bit early....Hope not, but some scaring sounding possibilities...Originally posted by ghComment
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Pego saw a 14 yr old boy in the newspapers he weighed 555 POUNDS LOOKS LIKE HE'LL BE NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!Originally posted by PegoComment
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Blame it on 24-hour cable news, which builds things up bigger than they need to be (way bigger), then toss them aside when the rush is gone. North America got lucky in the initial wave, but when we get to our winter and people are inside breathing all over each other and fomites become the order of the day....Originally posted by rasb
The "good" news is that he cables will be aware of this latest report and I'm sure they're gearing up to scare—rather than inform—people again.Comment
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True enough, gh...Originally posted by gh
But the reason that I posted, back on July 19th, was due to the intersection of the swine/flu to obesity link on here, and some "jungle drums" that I was reading/hearing based on opinions from some who are far more expert than thou or me, on possiblities for the future of this virus.
Of course, not only the media outlets, but some "experts" make a living from being somewhat alarmist, to say the least. But I went and did a bit of research (if you can call internet sources research), and it seemed to me that there were credible sources, with nothing to be gained from alarmism, hoping that we got the swine flu vaccine in place before the next big flu season... That got my attention...Comment
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Okay but what % of Americans are obese?Originally posted by ghComment
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I don't think that is the point, jules, with all due respect. Who knows what will happen with this virus over the next few months? But if it takes hold, as many are projecting, the target populations will not only include the morbidly obese, but also the very young, and the elderly, and the frail, for whatever reasons... Cynically, one could say it's Mother Nature's way of enforcing "survival of the fittest"...Originally posted by julesComment
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The Government of Canada has just ordered 50.4 million shots of pandemic flu vaccine, to help combat a possible significant swine flu outbreak during the upcoming flu season.
The Federal Government will cover 60 % of the costs, at $ 400. million plus, with the rest covered by the Provinces. Normally, the Provinces pay 100 % of the costs of seasonal flu vaccines, so this seems to represent a higher rate of alarm than normal. Ah, nice to have a National HealthCare System :wink:Comment
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Actually, with pandemic flu, as this batch of H1N1 is purported to be, it's the young and healthy who are at greatest risk. Unlike run of the mill flu, what actually kills people in a pandemic flu isn't the virus itself but the body's vigorous immune response to the invading pathogen. The more robust your immune system, the further up Shite Creek you are.Originally posted by Pego
Of course 'they' would never say this but if you are a strapping young man/woman in good health you really should've been finding people who had swine flu this spring and playing tonsil hockey with them. The early version of swine flu was affecting mostly the very old and very young, not even requiring hospitalization in most cases, and resulted in only a couple days of feeling ill. However, the exposure to the H1N1 strain would've given you an immunity to the second wave (which is more deadly in pandemic flus) that perhaps will be coming this fall.Comment
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there has been hysteria in UK but only because we love to have something to moan about. apparently people have been dropping like flies i read one report that 100,000 'could' get swine flu every day !!! and the 98,000 would die in london alone (98,000 mind you not 100,000) who comes up with this crap.Originally posted by gm
so far about 30 people have died and all but 2 had underlying health issues. i live in densily populated central london and don;t know one person who has had it
:roll:i deserve extra creditComment
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The mortality stats I've seen indicate that over 90% are those with significant underlying health problems.Originally posted by K.I.R."A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
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