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Aha, Bet Time! Since you see a 10pt C win, we'll give no odds - straight up, OK?
We'll arrange the stakes in PMs so the Feds don't nail us, but it's gotta be sumpin substantial - yes??!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Early lines have Florida 10 1/2 - 11 point favorites. Biggest sucker bet of the year. Where's my credit card.....
As for you, it's never a good idea to bet on emotion, because the numbers don't lie. Please, for your family, and your grandkids college fund, rethink your proposal. :P
Aha, Bet Time! Since you see a 10pt C win, we'll give no odds - straight up, OK?
We'll arrange the stakes in PMs so the Feds don't nail us, but it's gotta be sumpin substantial - yes??!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Early lines have Florida 10 1/2 - 11 point favorites. Biggest sucker bet of the year. Where's my credit card.....
As for you, it's never a good idea to bet on emotion, because the numbers don't lie. Please, for your family, and your grandkids college fund, rethink your proposal. :P
Ooooooh, OK! But here's for some serious Bragging Rights! I'll give you a TD!!!
As for Miles, I can understand him putting TCU, Boise State and maybe even Florida ahead of Cincinnati, due to a suspect defense. However, Oregon and Ohio State make absolutely no sense, given that both of them have two losses. Having said this, Brian Kelly doesn't look much better by putting his team at #1. Fortunately, Garry Patterson and Chris Petersen weren't that shameless with their voting.
Time will tell, but I don't see any upside for Meyer going to Notre Dame. They probably can't pay him more than Florida can.
Don't kid yourself. Notre Dame can swing with any of the big boy state colleges. They'll be paying Weis and his staff well over $20 million to go away.
They can't recruit as well as Florida can at this point.
That's exactly why you bring in a guy like Meyer as opposed to a young, talented, but low profile guy like Brian Kelly. Instant name cache on the recruiting trail.
[quote:2k7o08jv]If he does resurrect that program, does he stay there forever or look for the next move? What would be the next move?
There wouldn't be one. As I mentioned he's a born and bred midwesterner. Born in Ohio, played at Cincinnati, and cut his coaching teeth here at a local high school. If he came to Indiana it wouldn't be for the sunsets. It would be for the challenge(coaches are first and foremost ego-driven), and because it's home.[/quote:2k7o08jv]
Kelly has a scheduled interview at ND.
"A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
by Thomas Henry Huxley
Not sure why a coach would leave a team that returns a bonafide BCS contender again next year, not to mention bailing on the Sugar Bowl this year, for the Notre Dame train wreck(who lost Clausen to the draft today). It just doesn't make sense.
If it were Michigan calling(which may happen in a year or two), I'd say he's definitely gone. But considering he's in the middle of renegotiating his contrct with UC, it may just be a ploy.
Guru, I believe that Cincinnati is unique among all other teams in the history of the BCS in that it is the first team ever to finish in the top two in the computer rankings that failed to make it into the championship game. You could make the argument that they are the victim of the pre-season polls in which Texas and Alabama were both in the top five and Cincinnati was un-ranked.
Guru, I believe that Cincinnati is unique among all other teams in the history of the BCS in that it is the first team ever to finish in the top two in the computer rankings that failed to make it into the championship game. You could make the argument that they are the victim of the pre-season polls in which Texas and Alabama were both in the top five and Cincinnati was un-ranked.
While I am not sure I disagree with your basic point. The BCS computer rankings are a moving target. They changed when they removed margin of victory a few years ago. I am not sure Cincinatti would have been in the top two in the previous computer rankings that included margin of victory. Also in 2007 Virginia Tech was number one in the BCS computer rankings
Guru, I believe that Cincinnati is unique among all other teams in the history of the BCS in that it is the first team ever to finish in the top two in the computer rankings that failed to make it into the championship game. You could make the argument that they are the victim of the pre-season polls in which Texas and Alabama were both in the top five and Cincinnati was un-ranked.
While I am not sure I disagree with your basic point. The BCS computer rankings are a moving target. They changed when they removed margin of victory a few years ago. I am not sure Cincinatti would have been in the top two in the previous computer rankings that included margin of victory. Also in 2007 Virginia Tech was number one in the BCS computer rankings
You're right. I guess I should have preceded my statement with "IIRC". In 2007, Ohio State made it into the championship game despite only being ranked third in the computers. However, unlike this year, in 2007 it was Virginia Tech's two losses that did them in since the teams that finished ahead of them had losses and they started out the season #9 in the preseason polls, not unranked like Cincinnati this year.
But I agree with your larger point, that the most meaningful computer rankings were the ones that were used before margin-of-victory was removed from the calculations following the 2001 season. Cincinnati would have no doubt fared worse under that system, and TCU would have fared better.
Alot of media tyes who have reliable "sources" are backtracking on the slamdunk aspect of Kelly being the guy. It's now very much up in the air, the main sticking point being Notre Dame's academic standards, and whether or not there will be flexibility for the next coach to work with. That's not very likely to happen.
I wouldn't bet my house on it, but since there's been no announcement yet I would not be surprised to see Kelly announce at tomorrow's UC football awards banquet that he's staying.
Alot of media tyes who have reliable "sources" are backtracking on the slamdunk aspect of Kelly being the guy. It's now very much up in the air, the main sticking point being Notre Dame's academic standards, and whether or not there will be flexibility for the next coach to work with. That's not very likely to happen.
I wouldn't bet my house on it, but since there's been no announcement yet I would not be surprised to see Kelly announce at tomorrow's UC football awards banquet that he's staying.
It's my understanding that Notre Dame's tightening of the academic standards is one of the reason Lou Holtz left, and their subsequent rigidity in this area is why so many other coaches have turned them down. Supposedly, that was the deal breaker for Urban Meyer in 2004.
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