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  • #46
    Originally posted by TrackDaddy
    Since for the most part its an isolated incident and she doesnt have a pattern of it, ask yourself why.
    Here's why -

    "I swear to God I'm fucking going to take this fucking ball and shove it down your fucking throat, you hear that? I swear to God."
    There are no strings on me

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    • #47
      Originally posted by guru
      There's nothing wrong with telling a line judge their call sucked. The problem comes in when you shake your racket and threaten to stuff a f**king tennis ball down their throat. And race has nothing to do with the response. Size might. I suspect if Martina Navratilova had ever done a similar thing in her prime she may have been arrested.
      yup, yup and yup. i'm sorry to say, serena lost a lot of my respect last night. did you folks see the video? you don't walk towards someone who's much smaller than you (and for the record, serena is much bigger than martina) and she towered over both the lineswoman and the umpire last night; and shake your racket at her, while screaming "i'm going to f.....g take this ball and shove it down your f......g throat." it's very threatening. she could have said other things, like "you are out of your mind, you are stupid, you are blind, etc." but not act like that. and worse, i believe, she went at it twice.

      professional tennis is full of brats. i hated hingis and her pedantic arrogant behavior, but i don't think she ever yelled at someone "i'm gonna get out in the parking lot."

      i think it was an unfortunate call and an unfortunate incident. i'm not going to stop being a fan of hers, i'm a fan of hers and many other tennis players, i don't think she's a murderer or anything, but i lost a lot of respect for her.

      nevets, what did azarenka do at wimbledon?

      looking forward to the final tonight and the WAF 2nd day on t v.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by cacique
        looking forward to the final tonight and the WAF 2nd day on t v.
        Nothing interesting happens . . . :twisted:

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        • #49
          Originally posted by TrackDaddy
          jc you said that Saunders said that this one incident will follow Serena for the rest of her career. I agree with that prediction.

          Since for the most part its an isolated incident and she doesnt have a pattern of it, ask yourself why.

          Why would this follow a player who's won 11 grand slams in 10 years?
          I've already explained to you why, but instead of accepting this explanation, you chose to play the race card. Whenever I think of Ron Artest, I think of him running into the stands in Detroit. Whenever I think of George Brett, I think of the pine tar incident. Whenever In think of Gerry Cooney, I think of the low blows against Larry Holmes. Because of cable TV, satellite TV and youtube, Serena's meltdown is destined to be in that same category. It's not impossible for Serena to recover from this, after all, Charles Barkley recover from the spitting incident. But it will take time.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by guruof track
            I can't help but think that because Serena is from Compton and doesn't look like majority of her counterparts, critics, fans, and commentators that somehows that plays a SERIOUS role in why she is taking the heat she is taking.
            Wow - you have great career prospects...in Athletics South Africa..

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            • #51
              Firstly it wasn't a foot-fault
              Almost everyone concluded that it was, from the replays. Maybe there are dozens in a match that are not called. And this was a terrible time to have to call it. But people who have seen it at different angles say it was a correct call.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by jazzcyclist
                Whenever I think of Ron Artest, I think of him running into the stands in Detroit. Whenever I think of George Brett, I think of the pine tar incident. Whenever In think of Gerry Cooney, I think of the low blows against Larry Holmes. Because of cable TV, satellite TV and youtube, Serena's meltdown is destined to be in that same category. It's not impossible for Serena to recover from this, after all, Charles Barkley recover from the spitting incident. But it will take time.
                Add Bobby Knight and the chair-throwing incident to that list.

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                • #53
                  "I swear to God I'm fucking going to take this fucking ball and shove it down your fucking throat, you hear that? I swear to God."
                  Sounds like me driving here in NYC. But then the horrifying f-bomb is nearly a term of endearment around these parts.

                  I was at that match last night, and once the shock and confusion of what happened cleared, there was near fury in the stands over the way the match ended and the preemptive actions of the USTA officials. But then we couldn't really hear what Serena said, but the screen did show the Mickey Mouse and very marginal foot fault call.

                  Having now seen the video, what Serena said definitely did merit some sort of punishment, such as a fine, but ending a match that way after a marginal call that would infuriate anyone was cheat to everyone involved. Not least of all the fans who paid hundreds of dollars to be there (and had waited all trough the previous day and all day yesterday nand well into the night through the rain to see that match), and Clijsters herself, who was gypped out of her moment of actually winning the match.

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                  • #54
                    Oh, but I was happy to see Clijsters win tonight. She played great throughout the tournament, really some of the best tennis of her career, and really deserved the win.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Marlow
                      Originally posted by cacique
                      looking forward to the final tonight and the WAF 2nd day on t v.
                      Nothing interesting happens . . . :twisted:
                      good try, marlow, but i'm still gonna kill you for spoiling the race for me!!!!!!

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                      • #56
                        Serena, MJ, Jocks Behaving Badly

                        http://<br /> <a href="http://www.t...isk-reward</a>

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Marlow
                          Originally posted by cacique
                          looking forward to the final tonight and the WAF 2nd day on t v.
                          Nothing interesting happens . . . :twisted:
                          ...Except, of course, 10.67 and 19.68.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by jazzcyclist
                            Originally posted by TrackDaddy
                            jc you said that Saunders said that this one incident will follow Serena for the rest of her career. I agree with that prediction.

                            Since for the most part its an isolated incident and she doesnt have a pattern of it, ask yourself why.

                            Why would this follow a player who's won 11 grand slams in 10 years?
                            I've already explained to you why, but instead of accepting this explanation, you chose to play the race card. Whenever I think of Ron Artest, I think of him running into the stands in Detroit. Whenever I think of George Brett, I think of the pine tar incident. Whenever In think of Gerry Cooney, I think of the low blows against Larry Holmes. Because of cable TV, satellite TV and youtube, Serena's meltdown is destined to be in that same category. It's not impossible for Serena to recover from this, after all, Charles Barkley recover from the spitting incident. But it will take time.
                            You know? Nobody remembers Bark's spitting incident. He was aiming at someone else but if I'm correct a little girl got most of it. Unlike Serena's meltdown, Bark's incident was something that escalated to actually becoming physical, as was the case when Dennis Rodman kicked a cameraman for being too close when Rodman fell to the sideline, or when Latrell Sprewell got in a heated argument with Coach P.J. Carlesimo and choked him.

                            I don't think this incident is going to have the kind of effect on Serena's career that most believe it will. She'll learn from it, for sure, but she wasn't the first and certainly won't be the last. This is the sort of thing John McEnroe was used to doing every other month for the better part of an entire decade, in varying degrees of , from the average fine to an infamous ejection from the men's singles draw at the 1990 Australian Open. And people were almost numb to the point where they expected him to blow up. One or more of his angry tirades became a punch line for at least two TV commercials. It almost became amusing, 30 years after his first outburst and nearly 20 years after he retired. He's one of the few who clearly does not have a right to criticize, if he ever did.

                            Now that Serena lost her cool in a big way, I wonder if anyone thinks Mac's behavior in the past is something to laugh at today, something to make commercials out of. Like, say, Bob Knight's hot temper being applied to a Rock Band commercial.

                            Get it? A hot temper was something to glorify in TV commercials, often using the stars who put that temper on display in real life years ago. And we wonder why there are still athletes with a hot temper, or worse. Serena is just a little fish in a big pond full of athletes, coaches and managers whose behavior is much worse than what she displayed on Saturday. If she weren't the kind of athlete who wore her heart on her sleeve and had the passion of a lioness, I would have been very shocked. To me, it was just another meltdown from another athlete, and I've seen many.

                            If you go to some of the more unstable message boards on the Web, you'll find a truckload of nasty comments, directed not only at Serena but her entire family, that have almost nothing to do with the incident but everything to do with their hatred of the sisters, and many are using the incident as an excuse to spew more venom. Race shouldn't have anything to do with the incident, but it damn sure is a backdrop in this matter.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by cacique
                              Originally posted by guru
                              There's nothing wrong with telling a line judge their call sucked. The problem comes in when you shake your racket and threaten to stuff a f**king tennis ball down their throat. And race has nothing to do with the response. Size might. I suspect if Martina Navratilova had ever done a similar thing in her prime she may have been arrested.
                              yup, yup and yup. i'm sorry to say, serena lost a lot of my respect last night. did you folks see the video? you don't walk towards someone who's much smaller than you (and for the record, serena is much bigger than martina) and she towered over both the lineswoman and the umpire last night; and shake your racket at her, while screaming "i'm going to f.....g take this ball and shove it down your f......g throat." it's very threatening. she could have said other things, like "you are out of your mind, you are stupid, you are blind, etc." but not act like that. and worse, i believe, she went at it twice.

                              professional tennis is full of brats. i hated hingis and her pedantic arrogant behavior, but i don't think she ever yelled at someone "i'm gonna get out in the parking lot."

                              i think it was an unfortunate call and an unfortunate incident. i'm not going to stop being a fan of hers, i'm a fan of hers and many other tennis players, i don't think she's a murderer or anything, but i lost a lot of respect for her.

                              nevets, what did azarenka do at wimbledon?

                              looking forward to the final tonight and the WAF 2nd day on t v.
                              It was in the fourth round of Wimbledon and she was just going berserk. She was screaming at the linesperson and the umpire and at one point she went over to one of the lineswoman and sarcastically shook her hand to see if she was awake and it did seem somewhat threatening. Plus she was on the verge of hitting one of the tennis balls into the crowd.
                              http://twitter.com/Trackside2011

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by guru
                                Here's why -

                                "I swear to God I'm fucking going to take this fucking ball and shove it down your fucking throat, you hear that? I swear to God."
                                Come on, guru be reasonable. It's not like the poor Compton girl called her a blind fucking gook who should go back where she came from because she doesn't know her foot fault from her elbow and that a poor disadvantaged Compton girl is doing it against the odds and doesn't deserve to have the rules applied to a poor disadvantaged Compton girl cause it's just not fair and representative of the long standing Chinatown/Compton power imbalance that caused the poor disadvantaged Compton girls the Williams sisters to live in ongoing poverty in Compton because they don't get paid their due but at least they still have their neighbours in Compton to keep them going against the odds cause life's so fucking UNFAIR IN COMPTON............uhhh, Compton, Florida, otherwise known as Palm Beach Gardens

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