Jimmy Carter Says Racism Fuels Animosity Towards Obama

[lonewolf]

I believe people do not have a problem with the president being black

At all?

Where do you live?

I was speaking genericially. Yes, there are people who resent a black president.
Perhaps I failed to make my point that it is possible to disagree with him for non-racial reasons.

[Conor Dary]

I think Andrew Sullivan has it about right.

'They Don't Even Disguise The Race-Baiting Any More'

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/t ... -more.html

[TrackDaddy]

I believe people do not have a problem with the president being black

At all?

Where do you live?

[TrackDaddy]

I think the lightning rod with Obama is that he is a liberal and a Black. This allows those racists who have always hated liberalism (certainly probable in southern states) to become doubly apoplectic at Obama.

I certainly don't remember such vile invective against the Clintons when they pushed Health care reform. The hate was palpable but contained. What we are seeing now is pure bigotry at liberal ideas, which because they are championed by a Black man, have an added paranoia attached to them. "He's not only going to socialise us (double entendre intended), he's going to innundate us with brown people."

A lot of people would agree with this. In fact, this is very similar to Carter's sentiments.

[lonewolf]

I don't know if it helps to preface my comment with a non-political disclaimer but I will risk it.
I have a problem with any and all criticism of Obama being characterized as racial.
I don't know why his advocates cannot accept that his personal baggage, politics and associates are anathema to some people for purely non-racial reasons.
Contrary to President Carter's contention, I believe people do not have a problem with the president being black, (I think he got 52% of the popular vote) I believe they have a problem with this man, as revealed, being president, no matter his race.
If that is not non-political enough, I throw myself on the mercy of the moderators.

[TrackDaddy]

I agree that Dubyah was treated pretty bad, even disrespectful at times. Obviously racism wasn't blamed, his policies were.

But Zat (and others) how did you feel about Wilson's outburst during Obama's joint session speech? I mean it was an unprecented show of disrespect by a member of Congress toward the president...no?

Is there any consideration by people who disagree with him of the recession that existed when he took office? Does anyone disagree that things were a mess when he took over?

How else could he win by a landslide?

[jeremyp]

I think the lightning rod with Obama is that he is a liberal and a Black. This allows those racists who have always hated liberalism (certainly probable in southern states) to become doubly apoplectic at Obama.

I certainly don't remember such vile invective against the Clintons when they pushed Health care reform. The hate was palpable but contained. What we are seeing now is pure bigotry at liberal ideas, which because they are championed by a Black man, have an added paranoia attached to them. "He's not only going to socialise us (double entendre intended), he's going to innundate us with brown people."

[lexvid]

Yep, we are just one big racist country, thats why we elected a black man has our president.

Just cause he was elected doesn't mean he is being treated fairly.

Ditto Bush. Ditto every president.

Bush got 8 years. Think Obama will?

[SQUACKEE]

Are you saying he doesnt trust white people?

He doesnt trust white conservatives, thinks they are all racist.

[Zat0pek]

Yep, we are just one big racist country, thats why we elected a black man has our president.

Just cause he was elected doesn't mean he is being treated fairly.

Ditto Bush. Ditto every president.

[Zat0pek]

Do I believe that some people have a problem with a black president? Well, duh, of course.

[email protected] "have a problem with a black president"

What kind of problem? lol

Anyway, I think that was also Carter's point which you now seem to agree with. That would mean at best he's only marginally senile, unless of course, you (and I ) are too.

Since you acknowledge to theres some truth to it, I guess determing to what extent its true is what will validate or marginalize Carter's opinion. That is, is it significant enough that it warrants mention or consideration.

Wow, way to twist what I said. I said I don't think it has a statistically significant impact on the polls. I said Carter was nuts that the opposition during the health care speech was based on race because EVERY president who tries to socialize medicine gets the same thing. White presidents like Bush got the refrain about "wanting our country back."


Can't be much clearer than that. No, Carter's comments don't warrant further discussion. Carter is race-baiting. Carter is senile.

[Conor Dary]

Every president who has ever tried to socialize medicine has hit a brick wall and flown into a real shitstorm.

LBJ socialized medicine, Medicare. Popular then, and extremely popular now.

But only for a small segment of the population. Limited socialization as a social safety net has usually not been a problem; socialization of an entires system has always been a lightening rod.

As for "extremely popular," don't tell that to all the elderly who have to shell out Medicare supplemental insurance to get the coverage they really want, including my mom.

Medicare is very popular. As for the supplement insurance program, you can blame the Republicans for that.

[lexvid]

Yep, we are just one big racist country, thats why we elected a black man has our president.

Just cause he was elected doesn't mean he is being treated fairly.

[TrackDaddy]

Some said that electing our first black president would so abbsolutely nothin to change Black peoples distrust of white people- they were unfortnatley correct. Nothin has changed, very sad.

Jimmy Carter aint black and these are his quotes.

Are you saying he doesnt trust white people?

[SQUACKEE]

Yep, we are just one big racist country, thats why we elected a black man has our president.