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    Neither Superbowl team has a great running back. Where are Adrian Peterson, Chris Johnson? Home watching. You do not need a great back to be successful in the NFL. How many Superbowls did Barry Sanders play in? Walter Payton...1. A great back will avg 4.5ish a carry (if that) an avg back around 3.8-4.0. Not a whole hell of a lot of difference there. Of course we all like to watch a great back at work, yep, exciting but if I'm putting together a team running backs are the least of my worries. I start with my offensive line, then QB, then defensive backs. If you're weak there, you're weak. When I do start looking for backs I want a power guy. A guy who can wear down a defense. I want Jerome Bettis, Earl Campbell, John Riggins. Then I go after a guy who can catch the ball. I want Marshall Faulk, Roger Craig, Michael Westbrook. My third back would be that cat with the speed and elusiveness. Now I'm looking for Chris Johnson, Barry Sanders, O.J.Simpson.

    Rashard Mendenhall is a good mix of power and speed. A 225 pounder who has some wiggle and enought zoom to get outside. He's not overly anything however. Where a Jerome Bettis is beating up people, by the middle of the third quarter he's taking a toll. Chris Johnson can score from anywhere on the field. Nobody (now that Darrell Green has retired) is running him down.

    The Niners have won the Superbowl with no stud RB's as has the Patriots. Then there's ...Timmy Smith....haha!!

  • #2
    Re: Running backs and the Superbowl

    Roger Craig will be interested to learn that.

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    • #3
      Re: Running backs and the Superbowl

      Originally posted by gh
      Roger Craig will be interested to learn that.
      While everyone I mentioned could be the featured back (and were) some had a different skill set. Craig caught 566 passes, he had five seasons where he caught over 60 passes. The first 1000/1000 running back. That's not Jerome Bettis. Different kind of back. I think that power guy comes first. They make it easier for everyone because of the damage they do to a defense. Talking later in the game.

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      • #4
        Re: Running backs and the Superbowl

        If you scan this list...it's littered with HUGE names. Running backs haven't been that big of a deal the last couple of years, but it seems they still come up big on Super Bowl winning teams. These are just the two highest gainers of each winning team in the Super Bowl era, not even mentioning the RBs on the SB losing team.

        2009 Pierre Thomas 793 Mike Bell 654

        2008 Willie Parker 791 Mewelde Moore 588

        2007 Giants Brandon Jacobs 1,009 Derrick Ward 602

        2006 Colts Joseph Addai 1,081 Dominic Rhodes 641

        2005 Steelers Willie Parker 1,202 Jerome Bettis 368

        2004 Patriots Corey Dillon 1,635 Kevin Faulk 255

        2003 Patriots Antowain Smith 642 Kevin Faulk 638

        2002 Bucs Michael Pittman 718 Mike Alstott 548

        2001 Patriots Antowain Smith 1,157 Kevin Faulk 169

        2000 Ravens Jamal Lewis 1,364 Priest Holmes 588

        1999 Rams Marshall Faulk 1,381 Robert Holcombe 294

        1998 Broncos Terrell Davis 2,008 Derek Loville 161

        1997 Broncos Terrell Davis 1,750 Vaughn Hebron 222

        1996 Packers Edgar Bennett 899 Dorsey Levens 566

        1995 Cowboys Emmitt Smith 1,773 Sherman Williams 205

        1994 49ers Ricky Watters 877 William Floyd 305

        1993 Cowboys Emmitt Smith 1,486 Derrick Lassic 269

        1992 Cowboys Emmitt Smith 1,713 Curvin Richards 176

        1991 Redskins Earnest Byner 1,048 Ricky Ervins 680

        1990 Giants Ottis Anderson 784 Rodney Hampton 455

        1989 49ers Roger Craig 1,054 Tom Rathman 305

        1988 49ers Roger Craig 1,502 Tom Rathman 427

        1987 Redskins George Rogers 613 Kelvin Bryant 406

        1986 Giants Joe Morris 1,516 Maurice Carthon 260

        1985 Bears Walter Payton 1,551 Matt Suhey 471

        1984 49ers Wendell Tyler 1,262 Roger Craig 649

        1983 Raiders Marcus Allen 1,014 Frank Hawkins 526

        1982 Redskins John Riggins 553 Joe Washington 190

        1981 49ers Ricky Patton 543 Earl Cooper 330

        1980 Raiders Mark Van Eeghen 838 Kenny King 761

        1979 Steelers Franco Harris 1,186 Sidney Thornton 585

        1978 Steelers Franco Harris 1,082 Rocky Bleier 633

        1977 Cowboys Tony Dorsett 1,077 Robert Newhouse 721

        1976 Raiders Mark Van Eeghen 1,012 Clarence Davis 516

        1975 Steelers Franco Harris 1,246 Rocky Bleier 528

        1974 Steelers Franco Harris 1,006 Rocky Bleier 373

        1973 Dolphins Larry Csonka 1,003 Mercury Morris 954

        1972 Dolphins Larry Csonka 1,117 Mercury Morris 1,000

        1971 Cowboys Duane Thomas 793 Calvin Hill 468

        1970 Colts Norm Bulaich 426 Tom Nowatzke 248

        1969 Chiefs Mike Garrett 732 Robert Holmes 612

        1968 Jets Matt Snell 747 Emerson Boozer 441

        1967 Packers Jim Grabowski 466 Ben Wilson 453

        1966 Packers Jim Taylor 705 Elijah Pitts 393
        You there, on the motorbike! Sell me one of your melons!

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        • #5
          Re: Running backs and the Superbowl

          With 17 of those winning teams not having a 1000 yard rusher leaves us with, yes you don't need a "great" running back to win Superbowls. You can win that game without a great back.

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          • #6
            Re: Running backs and the Superbowl

            Just because a dude didn't get 1000 yards in the Season of his Super Bowl win, doesn't mean he isn't great. Here's a run down of most of the non-1000 yard (Super Bowl season) rbs on winning teams:


            2008 Willie Parker 791 (Former multiple 1000 yard runner)

            2007 Derrick Ward 602 (Former 1000 yard runner)

            2006 Dominic Rhodes 641 (Former 1000 yard rb)

            2005 Jerome Bettis 368 (Multiple 1000 yd rb, probable future HOFer, multiple All-Pro)

            2003 Patriots Antowain Smith 642 (Former 1000 yard rb)

            2000 Priest Holmes 588 (Multiple 1000 yard rb, multiple All-Pro, Rushing Leader, possible HOFer)

            1996 Packers Edgar Bennett 899 Dorsey Levens 566 (BOTH former 1000 yard rbs)

            1994 49ers Ricky Watters 877 (Former mutliple 1000 yard rb, 10000+ career yds)

            1990 Giants Ottis Anderson 784 Rodney Hampton 455 (Both former multiple 1000 yd rbs, 10000+ career yards, All-Pro, )

            1987 Redskins George Rogers 613 (Former multiple 1000 yd, rushing leader, etc..)

            1984 Roger Craig 649 (First 1000-1000 guy, multiple 1000 yard rb, All-Pro)

            1982 Redskins John Riggins 553 Joe Washington 190 (Former mutliple 1000 yard FB, HOFer...former "Westbrook before Westbrook" typer RB, Pro-Bowler)

            1980 Raiders Mark Van Eeghen 838 (Multiple 1000 yard rb, AFC rushing leader)

            1978 Rocky Bleier 633 (Former 1000 yd )

            1975 Rocky Bleier 528

            1974 Rocky Bleier 373

            1973 Mercury Morris 954 (Former 1000 yd rb)

            1971 Cowboys Duane Thomas 793 Calvin Hill 468 (One very good rb, though goofy, and one former 1000 rb)

            1969 Chiefs Mike Garrett 732 (former 1000 yd rb)

            1966 Packers Jim Taylor 705 (multiple 1000 yard FB, League Leader, HOFer, etc...)
            You there, on the motorbike! Sell me one of your melons!

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            • #7
              Re: Running backs and the Superbowl

              Originally posted by scottmitchell74
              Just because a dude didn't get 1000 yards in the Season of his Super Bowl win, doesn't mean he isn't great. Here's a run down of most of the non-1000 yard (Super Bowl season) rbs on winning teams:


              2008 Willie Parker 791 (Former multiple 1000 yard runner)

              2007 Derrick Ward 602 (Former 1000 yard runner)

              2006 Dominic Rhodes 641 (Former 1000 yard rb)

              2005 Jerome Bettis 368 (Multiple 1000 yd rb, probable future HOFer, multiple All-Pro)

              2003 Patriots Antowain Smith 642 (Former 1000 yard rb)

              2000 Priest Holmes 588 (Multiple 1000 yard rb, multiple All-Pro, Rushing Leader, possible HOFer)

              1996 Packers Edgar Bennett 899 Dorsey Levens 566 (BOTH former 1000 yard rbs)

              1994 49ers Ricky Watters 877 (Former mutliple 1000 yard rb, 10000+ career yds)

              1990 Giants Ottis Anderson 784 Rodney Hampton 455 (Both former multiple 1000 yd rbs, 10000+ career yards, All-Pro, )

              1987 Redskins George Rogers 613 (Former multiple 1000 yd, rushing leader, etc..)

              1984 Roger Craig 649 (First 1000-1000 guy, multiple 1000 yard rb, All-Pro)

              1982 Redskins John Riggins 553 Joe Washington 190 (Former mutliple 1000 yard FB, HOFer...former "Westbrook before Westbrook" typer RB, Pro-Bowler)

              1980 Raiders Mark Van Eeghen 838 (Multiple 1000 yard rb, AFC rushing leader)

              1978 Rocky Bleier 633 (Former 1000 yd )

              1975 Rocky Bleier 528

              1974 Rocky Bleier 373

              1973 Mercury Morris 954 (Former 1000 yd rb)

              1971 Cowboys Duane Thomas 793 Calvin Hill 468 (One very good rb, though goofy, and one former 1000 rb)

              1969 Chiefs Mike Garrett 732 (former 1000 yd rb)

              1966 Packers Jim Taylor 705 (multiple 1000 yard FB, League Leader, HOFer, etc...)

              You missed the point.

              They didn't get to the Superbowl or win it because of a great running attack. Just like we are seeing this year. You can get there and win the game without that stud runner, that has been proven time and time again. Look at all the "great" backs that never played in a Superbowl. The Steelers are the 11th ranked rushing atack, the Packers....24th.

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              • #8
                Re: Running backs and the Superbowl

                Originally posted by Avante
                You missed the point.

                They didn't get to the Superbowl or win it because of a great running attack. Just like we are seeing this year. You can get there and win the game without that stud runner, that has been proven time and time again. Look at all the "great" backs that never played in a Superbowl. The Steelers are the 11th ranked rushing attack, the Packers....24th.
                I agree with Avante (which is not my wont, by-and-large). One thing that the numbers from the current season tell you is the state of the line and the backs state of body. Some one-time great backs are no longer in the great category. Diligent research could provide more information, but neither I nor many here are likely to put in the time doing so.

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                • #9
                  Re: Running backs and the Superbowl

                  Originally posted by Avante
                  I want Marshall Faulk, Roger Craig, Michael Westbrook.

                  I think you want Brian Westbrook.

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