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    It was after track practice back in 1965, on the way home me and our 4x1 anchorman (I ran the second leg) asked if I wanna to stop by for a coke. While there he checked the mail (as we approached his house), there were some letters and a magazine. Yep, the first time I discovered T&FN. I asked Eric if I could check it out. My first introduction to...Grambling, Texas Southern, Southern U. I did know about Hayes and Carr (having seen the 64 Olympics on TV) and could tell you who Jesse Owens was and was up on the local scene with Sam Davis at Edison and Darel Newman at Fresno St. That was about it however, I was just a kid. Still remember the big sprint showdown between Sam Davis and Roger Jones out of East Bakersfield at the Valley Championships.

    Anyway....

    I asked Eric if I could borrow his T&FN magazines/Newsletters, he was cool with it but his mom...nope! I was welcomed to hang out and study them there if I wanted to. So that's what I did. Every day after practice for about a week it was a coke and an hour or so of...Richard Stebbins Grambling, Freddy Banks Southern U, Hayes Jones Eastern Michigan, Sam Davis Edison??????...yep, there he was with his 9.6. After a few days Eric asked..."why don't you subscribe?"...so now it's..."hey dad old buddy buddy ". Haven't missed an issue since.

    A few times (just happened) in all those years I'd not get my fix when I thought I should..."where's my T&FN as I got cold chills/shakes and the heebie jeebies "...which would end up with me calling the offices wimpering and wahwahing. In two days...BOOM!...my no questioned asked "special" just for me. Then the very next day here comes the one I thought was lost. I feel like a crook. I do have a scrapbook, without a picture of Yohan Blake...hmmmmm?

    I have subscribed to SI, Sporting News, some rasslin' mags, Blues mags and Ring. Thanks to the internet I can get those fixes without a magazine to read, that can't be said about Track & Field News. The mag has become part of my thang, a ritual. Without it, I hate to even think that...ouch!

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    What, no list of all current and former staffers, divided by college or country/state/province of HS attendance?

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    • #3
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      Originally posted by KevinM
      What, no list of all current and former staffers, divided by college or country/state/province of HS attendance?
      I'm were aware of listism and it's hold on people. Once afflicted with it it's hard to shake. Forget trying to cold turkey it. Since you need a fix, here ya go

      The first 4x1's I can remember.

      Southern U..Harvey Nairn..Webster Johnson..Grundy Harris..George Anderson
      USC..Earl McCullouch..Fred Kuller..O.J.Simpson..Lennox Miller
      Florida A&M...Alfred Austin..Al Denson..Bob Paremore..Bob Hayes
      New Mexico..Steve Camidini..Art Carter..Rene Matison..Bernie Rivers
      USA..Paul Drayton..Gerry Ashworth..Richard Stebbins..Bob Hayes
      Grambling 4x2...Vernus Ragsdale..Don Meadows..Don Owens..Richard Stebbins
      UCLA..Ron Copeland..Norm Jackson..Tom Jones..Hal Busby
      CPLSO...Rubin Smith..Jim Edmonton..Leo DeWinter..Cecil Turner
      Texas Southern...Arnoldo Bristol...blank?...Clyde Duncan..Jimmy Hines

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        Wait. You can remember those? :shock:

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by lonewolf
          Wait. You can remember those? :shock:
          I was blessed with a great memory. If the interest is there it's pretty much locked away for good. What I find weird is why can't I remember that second leg on that Texas Southern team? Strange.

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            I've posted this before but here goes again...

            I first saw Track & Field News while a freshman in high school, as our cross country ( and track) coach had a subscription for the school. The issues I saw on his desk were for September and August of 1957. I "borrowed" those 2 issues to read at home, and promptly started a subscription myself... I believe for $3 a year. And now it's 2011, 54 years later.

            And oh yes, those 2 "borrowed" issues still reside with me ! Gee, I just never got around to returning them....

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by KevinM
              What, no list of all current and former staffers, divided by college or country/state/province of HS attendance?
              I would have thought he would have compiled the TFN staffers fantasy 4x100 and 4X400. I think Avante's losing his touch

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              • #8
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                Originally posted by Daisy
                Originally posted by KevinM
                What, no list of all current and former staffers, divided by college or country/state/province of HS attendance?
                I would have thought he would have compiled the TFN staffers fantasy 4x100 and 4X400. I think Avante's losing his touch
                T&FN once ran their "fantasy" 100m to determine the fastest sprinter ever. It was won by Bob Hayes. That got me into my fantasy whatevers. As we know ESPN would have a fantasy tournament to see what NFL team was the best. Rocky Marciano vs Muhammad Ali! I have fun with it and it does set me apart. We can all talk movies, music, current track season, not too many can.....

                All Time SWAC 100m

                lane

                1.Robert Taylor..TSU-Oly silver
                2.Stone Johnson...Grambling-WR 200
                3.Oliver Ford..So U-WR 100m
                4.Willie McGee..Alcorn-WR 9.1
                5.George Anderson...Southern U-Number one ranked in 1965
                6.Jimmy Hines..TSU-Oly gold 9.95 WR
                7.Richard Stebbins..Grambling-Oly 4x1
                8.Henry Neal...TSU

                "B"

                lane

                1.Robert Woods..Grambling
                2.Lewis Turner..PV
                3.Willie Polk...TSU
                4.Jack Phillips..Grambling
                5.Morris Jackson..Jackson St
                6.Augustine Olobia...TSU
                7.Theo Bush...TSU
                8.Jerry Sims...Alcorn

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                  Originally posted by dukehjsteve
                  I've posted this before but here goes again...

                  I first saw Track & Field News while a freshman in high school, as our cross country ( and track) coach had a subscription for the school. The issues I saw on his desk were for September and August of 1957. I "borrowed" those 2 issues to read at home, and promptly started a subscription myself... I believe for $3 a year. And now it's 2011, 54 years later.

                  And oh yes, those 2 "borrowed" issues still reside with me ! Gee, I just never got around to returning them....
                  In 1957 a buck would...

                  10 cent comic
                  15 cent coke
                  15 cent bag of chips
                  a bag full of penny candy

                  What happened

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                    There's a magazine too?! :shock: How quaintly retro. I should look into that.

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by Marlow
                      There's a magazine too?! :shock: How quaintly retro. I should look into that.
                      How can anyone be a track fan and not subscribe to T&FN? How else can we know about...

                      Francis Baldwin...9.2...Dallas Baptist
                      What did Jeremiah Wheeler look like?
                      What were the splits when Canada won that 96 Oly 4x1?
                      What school once had three 26 foot long jumpers there for a season?
                      Who was Carter Suggs?...if you live in California?
                      Who ran a 43.1 4x4 split at an NCAA Championships?

                      Without the mag you'd be....???

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                      • #12
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                        A different person.

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by Avante
                          Originally posted by dukehjsteve
                          I've posted this before but here goes again...

                          I first saw Track & Field News while a freshman in high school, as our cross country ( and track) coach had a subscription for the school. The issues I saw on his desk were for September and August of 1957. I "borrowed" those 2 issues to read at home, and promptly started a subscription myself... I believe for $3 a year. And now it's 2011, 54 years later.

                          And oh yes, those 2 "borrowed" issues still reside with me ! Gee, I just never got around to returning them....
                          In 1957 a buck would...

                          10 cent comic
                          15 cent coke
                          15 cent bag of chips
                          a bag full of penny candy

                          What happened
                          Price index 2011 (1983 base) 224.55
                          Price index 1957 (1983 base) 28.10

                          Ratio = 8.0, or 8 dollars in 2011 to buy an average similar thing 1957. Of course, some goods have gone up relatively more than that while others (e.g., a calculating machine of similar quality) has gone down (by several orders of magnitude when it comes to electronics, but it is hard to fully incorporate quality changes etc).

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by Avante
                            That got me into my fantasy whatevers.
                            Why don't you join our fantasy leagues (DL, WC, OG)? It's a shitload of fun, camaraderie is great, you rejoice sometimes, cry at other times... 8-) .
                            "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
                            by Thomas Henry Huxley

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                              Originally posted by Pego
                              Originally posted by Avante
                              That got me into my fantasy whatevers.
                              Why don't you join our fantasy leagues (DL, WC, OG)? It's a shitload of fun, camaraderie is great, you rejoice sometimes, cry at other times... 8-) .
                              Maybe I will, thanks for the invite

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