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  • #16
    Re: greatest movie ever... how about Vertigo?

    I'm a huge movie buff, having watched over 4300 movies in my life.
    (I have two notebooks with ALL the movies I've seen listed, with their year of release, under various categories.)
    I also LOVE to make lists and do ratings.
    Thus, I've listed my top 15 movies from each individual year, starting in 1970.
    Before that, from 1938 through 1969, I've rated the best movies I've seen in TWO-year groupings (1938-1939, 1940-1941, and so on, through 1968-1969.)
    And before THAT, because I'd seen far less movies from the early days, I rated my 15 favorite movies from the beginning of the "sound" era through 1937. (1927-1937.)
    Following, in more than one post (because of space needed), are my "top 3" from each grouping of years, or from the individual years of 1970 onward.
    Keep in mind that ANY rating system, especially that of an individual human being, is HIGHLY subjective!!
    Mine certainly is!!
    I'll list the titles in order (1-2-3) after each year.

    1927-1937: King Kong, Les Miserables, Frankenstein.
    1938-1939: Of Mice and Men, Mr Smith Goes to Washington, A Christmas Carol.
    1940-1941: The Wolf Man, Our Town, The Grapes of Wrath.
    1942-1943: The Moon and Sixpence, The Pride of the Yankees, Shadow of a Doubt.
    1944-1945: The Clock, The Miracle of Morgan's Creek, The Lost Weekend.
    1946-1947: Miracle On 34th Street, The Ghost and Mrs Muir, The Bicycle Thief.
    1948-1949: Rope, State of the Union, White Heat.

    Continued in the next post.

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    • #17
      Re: greatest movie ever... how about Vertigo?

      1950-1951: A Christmas Carol, The Day the Earth Stood Still, The African Queen.
      1952-1953: From Here to Eternity, Moulin Rouge, House of Wax.
      1954-1955: The Honeymooners (TV-39 classic episodes), Davy Crockett, King of the Wild Frontier (the Disney series with Fess Parker), Godzilla, King of the Monsters (the original).
      1956-1957: The Ten Commandments (my #1 all-time favorite movie!!!), Lust for Life, Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
      1958-1959: I Want to Live!, The Tingler, The World, the Flesh, and the Devil.

      NOTE: In this previous group, I rated a TV series #1. This will occur in future years too. But I rate a show for its entire season, or seasons,, not for one episode. Also, in the future, you'll find "concert movies" rated. Sometimes, music wins!! One other thing: There are some "made for TV" movies rated as well. I'll note these when applicable. Oh yes, one MORE thing: Some earlier movies have been remade, using the same title. As noted, I rate each movie in the year of its release.

      1960-1961: Psycho, The Little Shop of Horrors, The Alamo.
      1962-1963: The Birds, To Kill a Mockingbird, A Child is Waiting.
      1964-1965: The T.A.M.I. Show (a concert movie), The Sound of Music, Woman in the Dunes. (A Hard Day's Night is 4th!!!)
      1966-1967: Don't Look Back (Dylan doc.), The Graduate, Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolff?.
      1968-1969: 2001: A Space Odyssey, Yellow Submarine, Rosemary's Baby.

      1970: Let It Be, Woodstock (concert movie), Performance.
      1971: Play Misty for Me, Duel, Silent Running.
      1972: Play It Again, Sam, Slaughterhouse Five, C..Ksucker Blues (Fill in the blanks...it's a dirty word!! But a GREAT doc on the Rolling Stones!!)
      1973: The Exorcist, Sleeper, Blume in Love.
      1974: Young Frankenstein, The Taking of Pelham One Two Three, Claudine.
      1975: Jaws, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Janis (bio doc on Janis Joplin.)
      1976: All the President's Men, Taxi Driver, Carrie.
      1977: Annie Hall, Smokey and the Bandit, Demon Seed.
      1978: An Unmarried Woman, The Other Side of the Mountain Part II (TV movie), I Spit On Your Grave.
      1979: Chapter Two, Kramer vs Kramer, The China Syndrome.

      Continued in the next post.

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      • #18
        Re: greatest movie ever... how about Vertigo?

        1980: A Town Like Alice (TV movie), Airplane!, The Blues Brothers.
        1981: Arthur, On Golden Pond, Smash Palace.
        1982: The Executioner's Song (Euro. version), Poetry in Motion (poetry reading with some Beat poets), Marianne and Juliane.
        1983: The Big Chill, The King of Comedy, Man, Woman, and Child.
        1984: Something About Amelia (TV movie), A Test of Love, Tightrope.
        1985: Always (Henry Jaglom movie), Pale Rider, Deadly Intentions (TV movie).
        1986: Hannah and Her Sisters, Back to School, About Last Night....
        1987: Elvis '56:In the Beginning (GREAT Elvis doc/concert movie!!), Gaby: A True Story, Fatal Attraction.
        1988: Working Girl, Bull Durham, Rain Man.
        1989: When Harry Met Sally, Uncle Buck, Small Sacrifices (TV movie).

        1990: Flashback, A Show of Force, White Palace.
        1991: Crazy from the Heart (TV movie), The Silence of the Lambs, The Hours and Times.
        1992: Majority Rule (TV movie about our first woman President!!), The Panama Deception (doc), Husbands and Wives.
        1993: In the line of Fire, Jurassic Park (the first!), Indecent Proposal.
        1994: Jane's House (TV movie), Clerks, L'Ennui (French movie).
        1995: MTV Unplugged: Bob Dylan (GREAT concert movie!!), The American President, The Bridges of Madison County.
        1996: Everything Relative ("The Big Chill" of lesbian movies!!), An Unexpected Family (TV movie), Moses (Ben Kingsley as Moses).
        1997: As Good As It Gets, Fools Rush In, Funny Games (French version!!)
        1998: Live from Austin, Texas: Lucinda Williams (concert movie), Primary Colors, The Dreamlife of Angels.
        1999: Notting Hill, The Loretta Claiborne Story (true story about a para-Olympian!!), The Terrorist.

        2000: Erin Brockovich, You Can Count On Me, The Family Man.
        2001: Never Again, Everything Put Together, i am sam.
        2002: About Schmidt, An Evening with the Dixie Chicks (concert movie), He loves Me...He Loves Me Not (French movie).
        2003: The Sleeping Dictionary, Top of the World Tour: Dixie Chicks Live (concert movie), The Mother.
        2004: Before Sunset, Fahrenheit 9/11 (doc), Million Dollar Baby.
        2005: No Direction Home (Dylan bio/doc/concert movie), Down to the Bone, An Unfinished Life.
        2006: Commander-in-Chief (full season of TV series about 1st woman President), United 93, The Heart of the Game.
        2007: 4 Months, 3 Weeks, and 2 Days, Freedom Writers, My Kid Could Paint That (doc).
        2008: American Teen, W., Gran Torino.
        2009: Up in the Air, American Violet, The Private Lives of Pippa Lee.

        2010: Welcome to the Riley's, Catfish, The Social Network.
        2011: Sarah Palin's Alaska (complete TV series), Martha Marcy May Marlene, The Undefeated (doc on Sarah Palin)

        Only watched one "movie" from this year thus far.....the complete TV series "Life's a Tripp!"...about Bristol Palin and her son Tripp.

        No cable, don't go to theaters, so all recent movies seen on DVD on my computer.
        All lists subject to change.

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        • #19
          Re: greatest movie ever... how about Vertigo?

          Originally posted by aaronk
          I'm a huge movie buff . . .
          That may be the Tafny understatement of the year. I have top 10 lists for the last 20 years and thought I had everyone else out-geeked - not even close! :shock: T'anx!

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          • #20
            Re: greatest movie ever... how about Vertigo?

            Originally posted by aaronk
            I'm a huge movie buff, having watched over 4300 movies in my life.
            (I have two notebooks with ALL the movies I've seen listed, with their year of release, under various categories.)
            I also LOVE to make lists and do ratings.
            Thus, I've listed my top 15 movies from each individual year, starting in 1970.
            Before that, from 1938 through 1969, I've rated the best movies I've seen in TWO-year groupings (1938-1939, 1940-1941, and so on, through 1968-1969.)
            And before THAT, because I'd seen far less movies from the early days, I rated my 15 favorite movies from the beginning of the "sound" era through 1937. (1927-1937.)
            Following, in more than one post (because of space needed), are my "top 3" from each grouping of years, or from the individual years of 1970 onward.
            Keep in mind that ANY rating system, especially that of an individual human being, is HIGHLY subjective!!
            Mine certainly is!!
            I'll list the titles in order (1-2-3) after each year.

            1927-1937: King Kong, Les Miserables, Frankenstein.
            1938-1939: Of Mice and Men, Mr Smith Goes to Washington, A Christmas Carol.
            1940-1941: The Wolf Man, Our Town, The Grapes of Wrath.
            1942-1943: The Moon and Sixpence, The Pride of the Yankees, Shadow of a Doubt.
            1944-1945: The Clock, The Miracle of Morgan's Creek, The Lost Weekend.
            1946-1947: Miracle On 34th Street, The Ghost and Mrs Muir, The Bicycle Thief.
            1948-1949: Rope, State of the Union, White Heat.

            Continued in the next post.
            Read through your lists rather quickly. Don't see any movies made by most foreign directors, including Bergman, Kurosawa, Ray, Wajda. (Have a look at Katyn from the last named). Don't know which version of Moon and Sixpence you refer to. But I reread the book after many years, and was dumbfounded by the stupid plot/story. I should add that overall I regard Maugham as one of the greatest short story writers in English - just ranked below Maupassant, Tolstoy, and Chekov, when other languages are included. I was surprised by your comments about The Ten Commandments - Charlton Heston playing Moses for starters! Take a look at Michelangelo's Moses in San Pietro in Vincoli, Rome, and see if that is the guy you see in the movie.

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            • #21
              Re: greatest movie ever... how about Vertigo?

              Originally posted by catson52
              Take a look at Michelangelo's Moses in San Pietro in Vincoli, Rome, and see if that is the guy you see in the movie.
              Um . . . uh . . . I'm pretty sure Michaelangelo did not have Moses pose for the statue. The statue is way cool (I've even been there to see it) and everything, but . . . :?:

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              • #22
                Re: greatest movie ever... how about Vertigo?

                T&FN co-owner Ed Fox has been rating his movies seen since the late '50s.

                But my choice for ultimate geek is the T&FN tour member from Washington who is well into his goal of watching every Oscar-nominated acting appearance ever.

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                • #23
                  Re: greatest movie ever... how about Vertigo?

                  Originally posted by Marlow
                  Originally posted by catson52
                  Take a look at Michelangelo's Moses in San Pietro in Vincoli, Rome, and see if that is the guy you see in the movie.
                  Um . . . uh . . . I'm pretty sure Michaelangelo did not have Moses pose for the statue. The statue is way cool (I've even been there to see it) and everything, but . . . :?:
                  Can one prove Moses was a historical figure? I was trying to compare someone from a movie with a much greater "expression" of what he may have been like. Others have also stepped inside San Pietro in Vincoli - I did so in summer 1992.

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                  • #24
                    Re: greatest movie ever... how about Vertigo?

                    Originally posted by catson52
                    Can one prove Moses was a historical figure? I was trying to compare someone from a movie with a much greater "expression" of what he may have been like.
                    I still don't follow. There's no doubt that the statue is magnificent

                    http://santitafarella.files.wordpress.c ... =460&h=739

                    but as long as you're casting real live people to portray him, CH was pretty righteous!

                    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/ ... -Moses.jpg

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                    • #25
                      Re: greatest movie ever... how about Vertigo?

                      Originally posted by mump boy
                      I saw Vertigo at a Hitchcock retrospective at National Film Theatre the other night

                      What a load of crap. Totally unconvincing in every way, ridiculous script, ridiculous dialogue, awful over acting but worst of all it was REALLY boring. I didn't care about any of the characters, or the plot which is pretty important in enjoying a film

                      I was gobsmacked that this was considered a competent piece of film making never mind the best of all time !! :shock:

                      Kim Novak looked great though
                      Also not a big fan of Vertigo -- probably don't dislike it quite as intensely as mump, but on the highlighted statement, we are in complete agreement.

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                      • #26
                        Re: greatest movie ever... how about Vertigo?

                        Originally posted by catson52

                        Read through your lists rather quickly. Don't see any movies made by most foreign directors, including Bergman, Kurosawa, Ray, Wajda. (Have a look at Katyn from the last named).
                        With a list that includes this I am not surprised...

                        2011: Sarah Palin's Alaska (complete TV series), Martha Marcy May Marlene, The Undefeated (doc on Sarah Palin)

                        Only watched one "movie" from this year thus far.....the complete TV series "Life's a Tripp!"...about Bristol Palin and her son Tripp.

                        Oy...

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                        • #27
                          Re: greatest movie ever... how about Vertigo?

                          Originally posted by Marlow
                          Originally posted by aaronk
                          I'm a huge movie buff . . .
                          That may be the Tafny understatement of the year. I have top 10 lists for the last 20 years and thought I had everyone else out-geeked - not even close! :shock: T'anx!
                          Thanks for the compliment!!
                          Be interesting to compare your top 10's to my top 15's (from the past 20 years).

                          But like I said, any lists or ratings by INDIVIDUALS are inherently highly......heck, TOTALLY......subjective!!
                          So since, as they say in Zen.........if a million people looked at one tree, they'd see a million different trees........we could never agree 100%. And with some, as little as 0%. To be able to match just 50% of our choices would make us "a match made in Heaven"!!!

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                          • #28
                            Re: greatest movie ever... how about Vertigo?

                            Originally posted by catson52
                            Originally posted by aaronk
                            I'm a huge movie buff, having watched over 4300 movies in my life.
                            (I have two notebooks with ALL the movies I've seen listed, with their year of release, under various categories.)
                            I also LOVE to make lists and do ratings.
                            Thus, I've listed my top 15 movies from each individual year, starting in 1970.
                            Before that, from 1938 through 1969, I've rated the best movies I've seen in TWO-year groupings (1938-1939, 1940-1941, and so on, through 1968-1969.)
                            And before THAT, because I'd seen far less movies from the early days, I rated my 15 favorite movies from the beginning of the "sound" era through 1937. (1927-1937.).
                            Read through your lists rather quickly. Don't see any movies made by most foreign directors, including Bergman, Kurosawa, Ray, Wajda. (Have a look at Katyn from the last named). Don't know which version of Moon and Sixpence you refer to. But I reread the book after many years, and was dumbfounded by the stupid plot/story. I should add that overall I regard Maugham as one of the greatest short story writers in English - just ranked below Maupassant, Tolstoy, and Chekov, when other languages are included. I was surprised by your comments about The Ten Commandments - Charlton Heston playing Moses for starters! Take a look at Michelangelo's Moses in San Pietro in Vincoli, Rome, and see if that is the guy you see in the movie.
                            I'll reply to both your points.
                            Re Heston as Moses, or my choice of "Commandments" as my #1 A-T movie.....as I noted, my lists, or those of ANY individual, are subjective.
                            Two people will probably never totally agree on ANYTHING when it comes to choices in personal taste. Not even husbands and wives!! (Maybe ESPECIALLY husbands and wives!! :shock: )

                            But my choice of "Ten" is because I personally LOVED that movie (Have watched all 4 hours of it more than 50 times!!!).
                            I didn't choose it because it was historically accurate, or because Heston looked like Moses cloned!!
                            As someone else said, does even Michaelangelo's version look like Moses??
                            (BTW, my name is Aaron. I was named after Moses brother!!)

                            As for those foreign directors, I don't rate a movie based on who directed it, or even by who acted in it.
                            I rate them by if I was entertained by the movie, if it moved me emotionally in some way (joy, fear, sadness, etc), if it mesmerized me as I watched it.
                            Just as there are criteria T&FN uses to rate their AOY's, so too does anyone who rates their favorite movies (songs, books, etc) have their OWN criteria.
                            I have MANY foreign movies on my lists......but not paying attention to director's names, I won't watch a movie based on a NAME (director, actor).

                            You mentioned "Moon and Sixpence", the movie. Didn't know there's more than 1 version!! Mine is the 1942 movie with George Sanders. It's the story of Gauguin, the artist.

                            Also, my lists go 15 deep!! I just gave the top 3.

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                            • #29
                              Re: greatest movie ever... how about Vertigo?

                              Originally posted by Conor Dary
                              Originally posted by catson52

                              Read through your lists rather quickly. Don't see any movies made by most foreign directors, including Bergman, Kurosawa, Ray, Wajda. (Have a look at Katyn from the last named).
                              With a list that includes this I am not surprised...

                              2011: Sarah Palin's Alaska (complete TV series), Martha Marcy May Marlene, The Undefeated (doc on Sarah Palin)

                              Only watched one "movie" from this year thus far.....the complete TV series "Life's a Tripp!"...about Bristol Palin and her son Tripp.

                              Oy...
                              As I noted, I don't have my TV working, nor do I have my VCR going.
                              Not since 2007.
                              Also, I don't go to theaters.
                              Thus, ALL the movies I've seen this century (!!) have been by VHS or DVD.
                              Since a movie generally doesn't come out for 6 months to a year AFTER its theatrical release on DVD, I haven't seen ANY 2012 movies yet, though several are on my list to watch them when I can.

                              As for rating Palin's TV show and movie so highly, it's NOT entirely political!!
                              If you want to see parts of Alaska you haven't seen (or have!!), watch that show.
                              Beautiful scenery.
                              And politics aside, Sarah Palin is a VERY entertaining (and funny!!) person.
                              (Though if you want to see the detailed TRUTH about Sarah's political career, watch "The Undefeated". It's the opposite of HBO's "Game Change" or most other media portrayals of Palin's career.)

                              Note that "Martha Marcy May Marlene" splits the 2 Palin features.
                              It's an EXCELLENT tale of a girl who escapes the cult she's hooked by, goes to live with her sister and her husband, and what happens next.

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                              • #30
                                Re: greatest movie ever... how about Vertigo?

                                Originally posted by aaronk

                                As for rating Palin's TV show and movie so highly, it's NOT entirely political!!
                                If you want to see parts of Alaska you haven't seen (or have!!), watch that show.
                                Beautiful scenery.
                                And politics aside, Sarah Palin is a VERY entertaining (and funny!!) person.
                                (Though if you want to see the detailed TRUTH about Sarah's political career, watch "The Undefeated". It's the opposite of HBO's "Game Change" or most other media portrayals of Palin's career.)
                                I will take your word for it. But I am glad you enjoyed it.

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