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    Recalls a time when Serena Williams said she could defeat the #25 ranked male tennis pro in match (not).

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...rick?hpt=hp_t4

    Griner wouldn't play well vs. NBA power forwards and other bigs. Heck, even tall young men, a la Kevin Garnett, Kwame Brown, Jonathan Bender, and Al Harrington, struggled in their first efforts vs. adults.

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    Lady, you said?
    "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
    by Thomas Henry Huxley

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    • #3
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      Ahem, woman. And don't start any Semenya analogies.

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        Originally posted by bijanc
        Ahem, woman. And don't start any Semenya analogies.
        I think some of the debate with Semenya can be applied.

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          Not really. Griner only has the deep vocal pipes. Not even excessively muscular.

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            Re: Mavs Owner Considers Drafting Lady Player

            Originally posted by bijanc
            Ahem, woman. And don't start any Semenya analogies.
            Yes, I will shut up. Unlike Semenya, there is no available data that I would be familiar with.
            "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
            by Thomas Henry Huxley

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              Re: Mavs Owner Considers Drafting Lady Player

              Cuban is one to grab at any publicity stunt that is out there. Griner would be eaten up in the NBA. She would be dominated by a good HS boy's team. Louisville beat Baylor, in part, by being very physical with her. Of course, shooting over 60% from 3 really helped.

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                There is no place in the NBA for Ms Griner.

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                  Mark Cuban's zillions of $$ permit him to think such thoughts in public, I guess.

                  As for Ms. Griner, who is an actual basketball player, I'm confident she is not a fool about such things. She's no doubt fully aware of the fact that, even though she is the same listed height as LeBron James, she is 50 pounds lighter, and bears no relationship to him -- or to any obscure 6'8" guy riding an NBA bench -- in terms of the needed ability in the NBA to do some basic basketball things, such as accelerate quickly, run fast, and jump very high. For instance, one does not find it remarkable in the NBA that a 6'8" guy can dunk. Griner's dunks, however, are news. The NBA game is often described in "above the rim" terms. Griner's game -- as great as it is -- is pretty much "below the rim." She's not in the same league...nor should she be.

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                    Re: Mavs Owner Considers Drafting Lady Player

                    Mr Cuban likes to draw attention to himself. The Mavericks are in decline, likely to miss the playoffs. What other way to get some attention?

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                    • #11
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                      Sadly, Cuban's publicity stunt does more to belittle Griner's abilities than it does to embellish them by highlighting the divergence between the mens and womens games. It's obvious to anyone, especially Cuban (he knows basketball), that Griner could NOT start for any D1 NCAA program (she wouldn't be a suitable alternative off of the bench, either). Not one. And that's the problem: when we start to make the comparisons it starts to become clear that Griner is NOT good in terms of the mens game. And, she should be celebrated for being dominant in the womens game.

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                        Or as Rebecca Lobo said in her autobiography, one scrimmage vs. the U. Conn men, when 6'6", 300 Kirk King barely missed her jaw w/ an inadvertent elbow, convinced her of the vast diference between the two games. Gino prepares his girls by scrimmaging the men.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Mavs Owner Considers Drafting Lady Player

                          Originally posted by bijanc
                          Not really. Griner only has the deep vocal pipes. Not even excessively muscular.
                          That's what I'm thinking too. Semenya looks and sounds like a man. Griner only sounds like a man.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Mavs Owner Considers Drafting Lady Player

                            Originally posted by Master Po
                            Mark Cuban's zillions of $$ permit him to think such thoughts in public, I guess.

                            As for Ms. Griner, who is an actual basketball player, I'm confident she is not a fool about such things. She's no doubt fully aware of the fact that, even though she is the same listed height as LeBron James, she is 50 pounds lighter, and bears no relationship to him -- or to any obscure 6'8" guy riding an NBA bench -- in terms of the needed ability in the NBA to do some basic basketball things, such as accelerate quickly, run fast, and jump very high. For instance, one does not find it remarkable in the NBA that a 6'8" guy can dunk. Griner's dunks, however, are news. The NBA game is often described in "above the rim" terms. Griner's game -- as great as it is -- is pretty much "below the rim." She's not in the same league...nor should she be.
                            Actually Griner is nearly 100 pounds lighter than James. As was noted on ESPN's SportsCenter, at 175 pounds, she's 3 pounds lighter than Steve Nash. Having said this, I pretty much agree with everything you've said, she's too light and weak to play in the front court and she's too slow and unskilled to play in the backcourt.

                            No woman basketball player in America thinks Griner has a chance, because all of them have played pick-up ball against men and they know better. Dana Taurasi said that when she was at Connecticut, she wouldn't have even been good enough to earn the final roster spot on the men's team just to sit on the bench. If Ann Meyers, a point guard whose game didn't rely size and strength, was unable to make it when she was drafted in 1979, a woman center has less than a zero chance of making it. But keep in mind that the Pacers signed Meyers to a guaranteed $50,000 contract at a time when there was only one player in the NBA (Moses Malon) making a million dollars. I think Cuban is just trolling but if he's not, he will sign Griner to a contract that matches Meyers' contract in dollars adjusted for inflation, or 1/20th the salary of today's highest paid player.

                            EDIT: Speaking of Griner, did anyone else see her get posterized by Louisville's Shoni Schimmel? It was the greatest play I've ever seen by a woman basketball player on any level. If more women had Schimmel's skills, I'd watch a lot more women's basketball. Here's a link to the video for those who missed it:

                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9wg0ZT3ZLc

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                            • #15
                              Re: Mavs Owner Considers Drafting Lady Player

                              Thanks for the comments -- regarding Griner's weight differential w James, I looked up something (without knowing) that suggested she was ~200+ lbs and only about 50 lbs lighter than James, and I thought that couldn't be right -- but I posted it anyway -- you know, not being a track & field stat, I didn't take care... Appreciate your post.

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