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Originally posted by Tuariki View PostWere my comments Russian bashing? I guess they were. But it is hard not to make observations along those lines when, for example, everyone racing that day against Lashimova knew she was a banned drug cheat, every official at that race meeting knew she was a banned drug cheat, every Russian administration official who was involved in re-dating the Lashimova picture knew she was a drug cheat.
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Here's wishing that every clean athlete boycott his or hers National Championship and thus this years World Championships unless the IAAF immediately bans and strips these cheats of their medals and moneys gained.
BOYCOTT BEIJING!
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Originally posted by Powell View PostBut the people who raised a stink about her competing were Russian as well, right?
Originally posted by norunner View PostBut you don't know if everyone there wanted to be involved. The politicial realities in Russia are similar to Moscow 80, it's certainly not a democratic country, so if someone with authority tells you to do something, you do it or you get into trouble. That's just my guess but it makes more sense than a country with 150mio cheats.
This. I have mixed feelings about the athletes who helped stage a cover-up in Saransk. I'm sure they were just following orders... punish them, but lifetime bans for every administrator/official/coach involved.
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Retrospective bans don't make any sense if they then allow people to compete in subsequent championships that they wouldn't have been able to qualify for if the ban had been in real time
'Chernova has her results annulled her results from 15 August 2009 to 14 August 2011 - a period that ended just 16 days before she won world gold in Daegu'
Jessica Ennis-Hill's coach Toni Minichiello wants Russian heptathlete Tatyana Chernova's drugs ban to be re-examined.
So there is no way she could have competed in Deagu.
This kind of inconsistency makes these bans a nonsense.
Has there been any explanation of why there are these random ban periods ?i deserve extra credit
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Originally posted by mump boy View PostHas there been any explanation of why there are these random ban periods ?
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Originally posted by beebee View PostHere's wishing that every clean athlete boycott his or hers National Championship and thus this years World Championships unless the IAAF immediately bans and strips these cheats of their medals and moneys gained.
BOYCOTT BEIJING!
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Originally posted by polevaultpower View PostNot really. No Russian athlete has said a negative word about anything from Saransk and some have spoken in support of various athletes and situations there. Skirun.ru is the only Russian publication I've seen that has really been critical, the rest seem more sorry the walkers got caught than sorry they were cheating.Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...
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Originally posted by Powell View PostBut someone made photos of her competing in Saransk and put them on line to alert the world of what was happening. I don't suppose they were foreigners?
The athlete who took the photos and posted them was complicit in the coverup, as was Elmira Alembekova who originally posted photos of herself on Instagram with her silver medal, later deleted the photo and re-posted with the gold medal.
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Originally posted by gh View Postoh yeah, great idea…. let's make sure we convince every last soul on the planet that our sport is the dirtiest of them all. Sorry, but I see nothing but bad coming from a stunt like that. It's a move that might win the high moral ground, but that would be an incredibly hollow victory I'm afraid.
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Originally posted by polevaultpower View PostThis article alleges that Lamine Diack personally asked the Russians to withdraw the athletes who failed drug tests from the 2013 World Championships. http://summer.sport-express.ru/athletics/reviews/53128/
The translation is a little rough...
Let's start with a few basic questions...
How did Diack know about these failed tests? Is he normally informed of these things before they are public?
If he knew about these problems over a year and a half ago, how was the process allowed to drag out in secret this long?
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Originally posted by beebee View PostYep, because business as usual has worked so well the last 40 plus years. Here in Chicago I've only seen Felix, Gatlin and Bolt doing any kind of commercials. I don't believe that Wall Street takes T&F serious. I also think that some form of protest by legitimate athletes is better than silence.
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Originally posted by mump boy View PostRetrospective bans don't make any sense if they then allow people to compete in subsequent championships that they wouldn't have been able to qualify for if the ban had been in real time
'Chernova has her results annulled her results from 15 August 2009 to 14 August 2011 - a period that ended just 16 days before she won world gold in Daegu'
Jessica Ennis-Hill's coach Toni Minichiello wants Russian heptathlete Tatyana Chernova's drugs ban to be re-examined.
So there is no way she could have competed in Deagu.
This kind of inconsistency makes these bans a nonsense.
Has there been any explanation of why there are these random ban periods ?
As for the ban periods - they are not random. Chernova's is 2 years from the date her sample was re-tested and the annullment of results covers a two year period starting from the first day of the Berlin Heptathlon, when the sample was originally taken.
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Originally posted by John G View PostI wonder what there is in the IAAF rule book about the results of competitors who qualified for championships with marks subsequently found to have been false, illegal, etc.
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