Chernova and Zaripova banned for doping by RUSADA

[Gabriella2 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Gabriella2]

Zaripova for 2 yrs 6 mnths from July 2013. Marks disqualified between 20 June 2011 to 20 Aug 2011 and 3 July 2012 to 2 sept 2012

Chernova for 2 yrs from 22 July 2013 . All marks disqualified between 16th Aug 2009 to 14 Aug 2011

Its a joke. Kelly Sotherton is rightly spitting feathers on Twitter. Denied a second Olympic medal by Chernova, and Ennis denied a second world title.

[Gabriella2 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Gabriella2]

Thinking about it, I guess this is why neither were in Moscow. We were told it was injury but it was obviously this ban instead! So we can look forward to both competing in Beijing....rolls eyes over and over and over

[norunner Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close norunner]

Thinking about it, I guess this is why neither were in Moscow. We were told it was injury but it was obviously this ban instead! So we can look forward to both competing in Beijing....rolls eyes over and over and over

If Zaripova got 2 years and 6 months from July 2013, her ban would end in 2016, so no Beijing for her. How do you expect Chernova to qualify if she is banned until four weeks before Beijing?

[beebee Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close beebee]

These trickle down revaluations of Russian cheating is total bullshit. This is a state sponsored doping program and has been for decades...if the Russians are not harshly punished this will occur again and again.

[IBswed Member Find all posts View Profile Close IBswed]

These trickle down revaluations of Russian cheating is total bullshit. This is a state sponsored doping program and has been for decades...if the Russians are not harshly punished this will occur again and again.

If this keeps up, Putin may have to put on a uniform and run the women's 4 X 4.

[Pakilo Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Pakilo]

Almost London 2012 bronze for Lyudmila Yosipenko lol But bronze goes to Milca Chemos

[gh Administrator Find all posts View Profile Close gh]

These trickle down revaluations of Russian cheating is total bullshit. This is a state sponsored doping program and has been for decades...if the Russians are not harshly punished this will occur again and again.

And what do you think other nations said about the U.S. after BALCO?

[beebee Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close beebee]

And what do you think other nations said about the U.S. after BALCO?

If BALCO was as sweeping I'd completely agree.

[Master Po Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Master Po]

Zaripova for 2 yrs 6 mnths from July 2013. Marks disqualified between 20 June 2011 to 20 Aug 2011 and 3 July 2012 to 2 sept 2012
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Haven't looked at all of this as yet, so just this question re Zaripova -- I am understanding that she keeps the Daegu WC gold, right?

Oh well. Another moment of wishing that all prior championship marks be invalidated when someone is a proven, sanctioned cheater.

[Tuariki Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Tuariki]

If Zaripova got 2 years and 6 months from July 2013, her ban would end in 2016, so no Beijing for her. How do you expect Chernova to qualify if she is banned until four weeks before Beijing?

You don't think the Russians are capable of inventing fake results for Chernova? The Russian mentality is to cheat in what ever way it takes.

[Pakilo Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Pakilo]

You don't think the Russians are capable of inventing fake results for Chernova? The Russian mentality is to cheat in what ever way it takes.

Save this crap for some other websites. I'm sure there are plenty.

[norunner Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close norunner]

You don't think the Russians are capable of inventing fake results for Chernova? The Russian mentality is to cheat in what ever way it takes.

No i don't think they are capable of doing so and i also think it's enough with all the Russia bashing. During the 80s basically all east german athletes were using PEDs, does that mean Germans had/have a mentality to cheat?

[Gabriella2 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Gabriella2]

Pakilo, norunner, you obviously have never seen the wealth of dubious results that have come out of Russia, and the Soviet Union before that.
I also refer you to the thread gh posted a link to on Soviet cheating at the 80 Olympics.
The evidence IS there that the Russian Federation cheats. I am not personally saying that's imbedded in their culture like others, but I can see why some are driven to say that. Win at all costs.

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in any case, parsing "national tendencies" is not really what a Current Events forum about track & field is meant to discuss.

[norunner Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close norunner]

Pakilo, norunner, you obviously have never seen the wealth of dubious results that have come out of Russia, and the Soviet Union before that.
I also refer you to the thread gh posted a link to on Soviet cheating at the 80 Olympics.
The evidence IS there that the Russian Federation cheats. I am not personally saying that's imbedded in their culture like others, but I can see why some are driven to say that. Win at all costs.

My point wasn't that i think they would be too honest to consider it, the circus around those banned walkers competing in Saransk showed there are people who will go to great lengths to circumvent the rules. But Saransk also showed why they weren't capable of doing so. We live in a world of cellphones, of everybody being online all the time. They would have to invent results from a multivent competition where Chernova either never even showed up or where they falsified all results and that's just too big of a risk to take nowadays. How many people would have to join that conspiracy for it to work? The other athletes, all officials, press, audience, if just one person post photos online that show something that's not supposed to be there, it would be over.
Chernova is a convicted doper, if she was to compete a few weeks before Beijing in an attempt to qualify, if i had anything to say in the IAAF/WADA, i would send someone there to test her.
My criticism is about the way the Russia bashing sounds, it sounds like the whole country is a bunch of cheats.