Carnton Plantation, Confederate cemetery in Franklin, TN

[BillVol]

love the revisionist excuses and the attempt to rationalize the sickness of racism.
any effort to justify maintaining the enslavement of other human beings is abhorrent.

Great. Coming from the most racist city in the country according to MLK.

Nobody is trying to rationalize anything here.

I'd remind you of the words of Lincoln, but I know we are teetering on getting moved to July 4, and I don't want to do that.

[user4]

One fact is always bonechilling to me, over 500,000 died during the civil war. I think we can all agree that on this solemn day we honor them .

Another fact , the vast majority of even southern combatants owned no slaves. I think that slave owning whites made up less than 2% of the southern white population. Slavery was the big issue of the war but few of the combatants i n the south were fighting explicitly to keep it and few in the north were fighting explicitly to end it.

It was a horrible brutal war. It might have been avoided but thankfully it was over relatively quickly and it end slavery in north America. If those 300000 lives lost had any purpose it was to free the slaves.

[beebee]

Great. Coming from the most racist city in the country according to MLK.

Nobody is trying to rationalize anything here.

I'd remind you of the words of Lincoln, but I know we are teetering on getting moved to July 4, and I don't want to do that.

Nice attempt at defelecting...I don't blame you for veering off topic.
Btw as an African American my family were victims not perpetrators of Chicago's horrific discrimination practices.
First, the confederates were traitors to the nation and the constitution.
Those men fought and died for politicians and rich slaveowners just so they could be told that they were better than Blacks.
They went to War against their own Nation to preserve and protect an institution of rape torture and murder of other Americans.
Now you can return to your revisionism sir...trust me, educated people will never buy such bullshit.

[dukehjsteve]

beebee, you have offered an excellent and accurate finale to this thread. Good on you.

[jazzcyclist]

I know that you're a good dude booond, but that's bullshit man, treatment didn't vary.
Perhaps there were some descent(by comparison) "masters" but there was nothing good about being owned by another person...it was dehumanizing...period.

I think you took booond's post the wrong way. I don't think for one minute that he was trying to sympathize with slave owners. As a matter of fact, I took it just the opposite way.

[Pego]

I think you took booond's post the wrong way. I don't think for one minute that he was trying to sympathize with slave owners. As a matter of fact, I took it just the opposite way.

So did I.

[gh]

beebee, you have offered an excellent and accurate finale to this thread. Good on you.

amen