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  • Originally posted by Atticus View Post
    Has this case already been brought up?

    https://www.insidethegames.biz/artic...er-rule-change
    Yes it had its own thread

    https://forum.trackandfieldnews.com/...hat-utter-crap

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    • Originally posted by 18.99s View Post
      I hope Hubbard competes and wins the gold medal. That would shut down the activists' argument of "but they're not winning anything at the Olympic level" and it would be a big international news story that wakes up the public to the consequences of letting born males compete as women. The pro-trans-in-women's-sports bandwagon will not lose momentum until and unless the public sees such consequences.
      A recent email I sent to friends:


      This will all come to a ridiculous end when a young Bruce Jenner switches teams as a teen and puts some women's record into the ozone, like a sub-10:10 hundred or a 3:55 mile or a 9,000 point hep . . .


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      • Originally posted by wamego relays champ View Post
        Yes, and June Eastwood was predicted to be an NCAA title contender on that thread.

        https://forum.trackandfieldnews.com/...93#post1519293

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        • Originally posted by TN1965 View Post

          Yes, and June Eastwood was predicted to be an NCAA title contender on that thread.

          https://forum.trackandfieldnews.com/...93#post1519293
          The NCAA cancelled what was left of the 2020 outdoor season and Eastwood has since graduated, so there was no opportunity to leverage those 3:50/1500m and 14:38/5000m abilities into an NCAA women's title.

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          • Caster Semenya has a greater moral right to compete as a woman at Tokyo compared to Hubbard.

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            • Originally posted by 18.99s View Post
              Winning by small margins at those levels isn't enough. They're already winning at the high school and NCAA D2 level. In order to change minds, there must be utter dominance that shocks the conscience of the viewing public and makes a mockery of the world record.
              I have been following discussions online. Utter dominance will not change any minds. The people pushing this agenda are NOT the viewing public. They don't care about the sport. They care about their agenda. A trans MMA fighter broke the skull of a female fighter and even that did not shock their conscience. They justified it by saying that such injuries are common in MMA. If a trans person wins every event from 100m to 800m they will find a way to justify it. They will call it excellence. They will say we should appreciate excellent athletes. The bogus Michael Phelps comparisons will spring up

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              • Originally posted by mungo man View Post
                I have been following discussions online. Utter dominance will not change any minds. The people pushing this agenda are NOT the viewing public. They don't care about the sport. They care about their agenda. A trans MMA fighter broke the skull of a female fighter and even that did not shock their conscience.
                Most of the general public don't know about that. It happened in a minor MMA league, not something on the level of the Olympics with a billion people watching it and hearing about it.

                They justified it by saying that such injuries are common in MMA. If a trans person wins every event from 100m to 800m they will find a way to justify it. They will call it excellence. They will say we should appreciate excellent athletes. The bogus Michael Phelps comparisons will spring up
                The extreme activists won't be swayed, but the general public who vastly outnumber the activists won't be so sympathetic to the activists' position if they see Hubbard win the gold medal at the Olympics.

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                • Originally posted by 18.99s View Post
                  Most of the general public don't know about that. It happened in a minor MMA league, not something on the level of the Olympics with a billion people watching it and hearing about it.



                  The extreme activists won't be swayed, but the general public who vastly outnumber the activists won't be so sympathetic to the activists' position if they see Hubbard win the gold medal at the Olympics.
                  The general public won't speak up. Few want to broach this subject.

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                  • Originally posted by mungo man View Post

                    The general public won't speak up. Few want to broach this subject.
                    That's because no one really cares. Especially Olympic women's weightlifting.

                    When it comes to sports the only thing the public cares about is men's sports. And the transgender issue is completely irrelevant.

                    High School sports is something different. But more at the local level.
                    Last edited by Conor Dary; 05-06-2021, 07:18 PM.

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                    • The general public did not speak up when Semenya won in Rio. And track & field has much higher profile than weightlifting.

                      In the meantime, the state lawmakers are targeting kids like this.

                      Rebekah Shares How Anti-Trans Laws Hurt Athletes Like Her

                      https://worldofwonder.net/rebekah-sh...etes-like-her/

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                      • Originally posted by Tuariki View Post
                        Caster Semenya has a greater moral right to compete as a woman at Tokyo compared to Hubbard.
                        Absolutely - the situations are quite different. The issues at play with intersex individuals competing as females are quite different from those of transgender individuals who at birth had an unambiguously male phenotype/genotype, but who want to compete as females. Conflating the two but muddies the waters.

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                        • Originally posted by TN1965 View Post
                          Rebekah Shares How Anti-Trans Laws Hurt Athletes Like Her

                          https://worldofwonder.net/rebekah-sh...etes-like-her/
                          Some girls in Connecticut track & field shared how their state's pro-trans laws hurt them.

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                          • Originally posted by 18.99s View Post

                            Some girls in Connecticut track & field shared how their state's pro-trans laws hurt them.
                            A few brave people speak up. Most people just shrug their shoulders and move on.
                            BTW that brave girl who spoke up was bullied and harassed on social media by Veronica Ivy and other vile people. Thats why it takes a brave person to speak up.

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                            • Originally posted by 18.99s View Post

                              Some girls in Connecticut track & field shared how their state's pro-trans laws hurt them.
                              Yeah, and we have heard from them multiple times.

                              Georgia Mom Speaks Out Against Anti-Trans Legislation

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48H-_Cv-jKQ

                              Missouri Dad Testifies Against Trans Youth Athlete Ban

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h60YLGDJ6n0


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                              • Originally posted by mungo man View Post

                                A few brave people speak up. Most people just shrug their shoulders and move on.
                                BTW that brave girl who spoke up was bullied and harassed on social media by Veronica Ivy and other vile people. Thats why it takes a brave person to speak up.
                                I am sure "defenders of women's sports" have never bullied any trans kid. After all, they are righteous people.
                                I wonder why Miller and Yearwood stopped competing, while Chelsea Mitchell is a D1 athlete.

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